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- Thread starter SoapyCy
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Sweet 16 was more than acceptable. We have 5 of them total. Great season in the annals of ISU history.
You guys can criticize me all you want for having a negative opinion. It doesn't bother me, I'm just still not convinced that Prohm is the guy for this job.
He already has 9 losses in Hilton in 3 years with 5 games left this season. Hoiberg had 11 losses his entire career in Ames in 5 years, and that's including 6 his first year when he took over from scratch.
Prohm has already been here 2.5 years so that's not an excuse he can use.
He already has 9 losses in Hilton in 3 years with 5 games left this season. Hoiberg had 11 losses his entire career in Ames in 5 years, and that's including 6 his first year when he took over from scratch.
Prohm has already been here 2.5 years so that's not an excuse he can use.
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Okay that futher proves my point. If he was close to going to Minnesota, this obviously means ISU was not his dream job.
It was great but I expected more, maybe even have a pulse against Virginia and I might have a different opinion on how that season played out.
The point isn't that we shouldn't appreciate that team or the Sweet 16 appearance. The issue is that 10-8 in the Big 12 was our floor in the 4 years prior and that team was as talented or more talented then those other squads. That 15-16 squad was 2-7 in Big 12 play in games decided by 5 points or less.
Yes. The NCAA tournament is absolutely the bar in college basketball. Who gives two craps about going 10-8 vs. 12-6 when neither team won the conference and one team did heaps better in the tourney? I mean I'm sorry dude, I've stood up for you in this thread but this is just straight lunacy.
Lots of dumb in this thread which is saying something coming from me
So you judge a team by losing one game to a good UVa team?
Lol, you need to tighten up your argument. You’re the one that brought up judging on extremely limited and ridiculous metrics such as complaining about losing to good P5s in the Sweet 16 and Second Round.
And, yes, the season’s success is heavily weighted by the real tournament. You do realize how you win a national title, right? The fact is in terms of incriminating postseasons, Hoiberg losing in the first round with arguably a better roster than 2016 to a bad midmajor is far worse than Prohm losing to Purdue and UVa.
Hoiberg had a very good run of putting talented teams together and was a good-enough coach. He was also two Naz Long miracles away from going 9-9 in conference with that Kane, Georges, Ejim team that prior to Georges injury was talented enough to compete for a national title. He had a team with guys like McGee, Babb, Lucious, Clyburn, Ejim, and Georges on the bubble.
Obviously, it wasn’t. That’s why the pining and revision is silly. I love Fred, but if he wanted to be here, he’d be making more money than he is now if that was what was required.
Prohm is the coach for the foreseeable future. He deserves a chance to transition into what he wants.
Tournament is a crapshoot, to say that season was a total bust because we played horribly against UAB is just as ridiculous as my point of view. I like to look at an entire body of work.
Lol, hey the title wasn't "Let your love shine through", people are frustrated and rightfully so, rebuilding years are fine, but stop losing by 18 to Milwaukee and an Sec team in our sacred Hilton would be a solid start for me!!
No one cares about the difference between 10-8 vs 12-6 other than the impact it may have on your seeding. The floor of the prior four years was losing to UAB in the first round, the ceiling the Sweet 16.
Hoiberg lost to UAB with a better team and was lucky to go 11-7 with a team that represented potentially our best chance of a national title since 2000.
I'm getting the impression that for some posters here Prohm will never be good enough for ISU short of bringing home a national championship. And that's a shame.
We've known for a while now that the recruiting sins of the past were eventually going to catch up with the program. Look at what Prohm is working with - some bottom of the barrel transfers (they try hard and I appreciate it, but they're just guys), a returning role player masquerading as a go-to scorer, a PG who's been playing the position for all of seven weeks on a bum knee, and a couple freshmen who as good as they are still have a ways to go in the maturity department. It's a rebuilding year. To even be on the bubble damn near everything would have had to go right. And now that it isn't the spoiled babies are coming out of the woodwork to piss and moan about an up and down young team taking its lumps.
We've known for a while now that the recruiting sins of the past were eventually going to catch up with the program. Look at what Prohm is working with - some bottom of the barrel transfers (they try hard and I appreciate it, but they're just guys), a returning role player masquerading as a go-to scorer, a PG who's been playing the position for all of seven weeks on a bum knee, and a couple freshmen who as good as they are still have a ways to go in the maturity department. It's a rebuilding year. To even be on the bubble damn near everything would have had to go right. And now that it isn't the spoiled babies are coming out of the woodwork to piss and moan about an up and down young team taking its lumps.
Hampton and UAB are the worst losses in school history.
No! Losing at home to a ranked team during a down year is.
Why? Because I said I wasn't happy with the Virginia game? Plenty happened that year before we even got to that point thst led to me being frustrated with Prohm .