It's time for the Hyvee Classic to die
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This must make a lot of $$ for Iowa and ISU, because the fans all hate it.
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- Northern Iowa's Greg McDermott to Iowa State
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Northern Iowa's Greg McDermott to Iowa State
By Guest Rob Marshall, March 21, 2006 in Men's Basketball
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Posted March 21, 2006
Since Steve Alford will NOT be leaving the University of Iowa, Greg McDermott opted for the next best job in Iowa in Ames and has accepted the Iowa State head coaching position.
Northern Iowa will try to hire a Scott Sutton type coach. Not saying Scott would go there, just suggesting that it's the first opening where he will get some ink.
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Northern Iowa
On April 3, 2001, McDermott was introduced as the new head coach at his alma mater, Northern Iowa.[3]
McDermott remained as the Panthers' head coach for five season between 2001 and 2006. During his tenure he led Northern Iowa to an overall record of 90 wins and 63 losses (90–63), the 2004 Missouri Valley Conference tournament championship, and to appearances in the 2004, 2005, and 2006 NCAA Tournaments.[6]
Iowa State
McDermott resigned his position with Northern Iowa on March 21, 2006, and accepted the same one at Iowa State.[6] McDermott was the Cyclones' head coach for four seasons between 2007 and 2010, and during his tenure led them to an overall record of 59 wins and 68 losses (59–68).[7] His marquee victory at Iowa State came on March 6, 2010, against No. 5 Kansas State. This was his only victory over a ranked team while with the Cyclones.
Not a fan of games at Wells Fargo. If ISU is going to play in DSM, would prefer it be 2 day2/4 game bracket format. Also, think a Midwest Classic would be fun with ISU plus 3 other MW schools like: Minnesota, Wisky, Marquette, Northwestern, Illinois, SLU, Mizzou, Nebraska or Creighton.
I look at the UNI and Drake games differently. We should never play Drake at Knapp or Wells Fargo. When ISU plays Drake all games should be in Hilton. I have no issue with the Clones playing UNI home & home. UNI has been a solid program for over 15 years. Plus a road game at UNI is great prep for the Big 12, especially if our first Big12 game is on the road.
I look at the UNI and Drake games differently. We should never play Drake at Knapp or Wells Fargo. When ISU plays Drake all games should be in Hilton. I have no issue with the Clones playing UNI home & home. UNI has been a solid program for over 15 years. Plus a road game at UNI is great prep for the Big 12, especially if our first Big12 game is on the road.
I boycott the event. Do not like games in the Well. Plus, do not like being around so many Hawkeye fans.
We should play Drake and UNI every year. I am OK with Home and Home but would prefer 2:1. When I was at ISU, Drake was the biggest game of the year.
The current setup was instigated by EIU.
They said they wanted to play a big time national schedule and could not afford to use two non con games against Drake and UNI. BS - look at their schedule. They just don’t want to lose when they go to UNI or Drake. I am mad Jamie went along with the proposal.
Do not forget, both Allfraud and Mad Fran said they should not play ISU because flagship schools should not have to play lesser in state foes. Stupid pricks!
As a season ticket holder I would rather see UNI and Drake than Alcon State and UWM.
I will watch on TV. Hope we win, but UNI will be the best team we will have played YTD. My guess is UNI wins by 4. Whether you like their style or not, UNI is one of the best coached teams in America.
Iowa State should never play a road game at Drake, not because Drake currently sucks. But, because they are a private school. UNI is a state of Iowa regent school. Iowa and Iowa State should alternate years playing a road game there.
Iowa may not ever go back to UNI under Fran, but we shouldn't set what we do based on them being chickens.
I'll be interested to see what happens to this event when the Franny Pack eventually moves on from Iowa.
I could live with this compromise.
Playing either Drake or UNI on the road every year is just way outside the norms of a power conference program.
The closest comparison to us is Oklahoma. Same population. Two major conference schools. Two additional D1 programs in decent but not major conferences. It's only slightly different because both are private.
Here's what they've done in the past 10 years:
Oklahoma:
Home vs ORU - 6 times
Home vs Tulsa - 2 times
@Tulsa - 1 time
Oklahoma St:
Home vs ORU - 1 times
Home vs Tulsa - 5 times
@Tulsa - 3 times
So something like a 2 for 1 with UNI and a "play Drake any time they'll drive up to Hilton" is definitely closer to the norm than 5 road games against both every decade like many here want.
In total over 10 years OU/OKstate played Tulsa 7 times at home and 4 times on the road. There's your 2 for 1 with UNI. They collectively played Oral Roberts 7 times at home and zero times @Oral Roberts. There's your Drake home only vs Drake.
Now honestly I would never want Iowa and ISU to only play Drake 7 times total in a decade, but the zero home games is DEFINITELY closer to the norm than 10 we used to do.
They ABSOLUTely did!
Both said it soon after being hired.
Sure is neat watching two iowa teams play in the heart of iowa, on the weekend, to a half full arena.
I'm 99% sure Fran never said that because I would remember such an asinine comment coming from him, and there most definitely would of been a thread here on it. I wouldn't be shocked if Alford said something like that, but since you say Fran did as well, you lost credibility.
I like the classic. If you perform well, you are expanding your footprint in the state, and as much as you want to berate people who say that they 'can't' come to Ames for a game, the fact remains that the game is a vehicle for expanding a base, not necessarily catering to the homers that are already on board. Maybe those peeps could come to Ames, if they chose to, but many don't choose to, and this is an opportunity to snag more fans that may like what they see, and make the trip up to Ames in the future because of it. It's better than a true road, or neutral game, as I assume that we get a fair amount of the gate, and we don't have to travel far.
Scheduling it on graduation, seems a bit ill conceived, even if you are trying to entice a new audience, but it is a date that you definitely couldn't have played at Hilton. It doesn't seem any worse than playing a no-name school in a converted convention center, like some of those early season tourneys. The lack of TV, is the only negative that I see in the arrangement, and that is on us I would imagine.
Scheduling it on graduation, seems a bit ill conceived, even if you are trying to entice a new audience, but it is a date that you definitely couldn't have played at Hilton. It doesn't seem any worse than playing a no-name school in a converted convention center, like some of those early season tourneys. The lack of TV, is the only negative that I see in the arrangement, and that is on us I would imagine.