ESPN - Bilas: Solving the transfer question is easy - Let them play

[WalkingCY]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...le-let-athletes-play-immediately-not-sit-year

Interesting article:

This isn't difficult. If this is really about unpaid, amateur students being treated like any other students, then the transfer policy is simple. Athletes should be able to transfer at will at any time, and immediately accept full aid elsewhere, and be eligible to play immediately upon full-time enrollment at the beginning of the quarter or semester of the next full season. Of course, this is all just talk, because the NCAA will not change its ridiculous, unjustifiable transfer policies anytime soon. The "membership input" being sought will skew toward athletes as employee-assets rather than students. It is all just talk.

 

[isutrevman]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...le-let-athletes-play-immediately-not-sit-year

Interesting article:

This isn't difficult. If this is really about unpaid, amateur students being treated like any other students, then the transfer policy is simple. Athletes should be able to transfer at will at any time, and immediately accept full aid elsewhere, and be eligible to play immediately upon full-time enrollment at the beginning of the quarter or semester of the next full season. Of course, this is all just talk, because the NCAA will not change its ridiculous, unjustifiable transfer policies anytime soon. The "membership input" being sought will skew toward athletes as employee-assets rather than students. It is all just talk.

Jay Bilas likes to talk a lot about paying student athletes and treating them like employees since college make money off them (nevermind the fact that athletics departments SPEND most of that money on the athletes). I have never heard him discuss why a wrestler, or swimmer should get paid, even though they cost the university money. I always thought it was a Title IX issue as much as anything. You can't pay male football players and not pay female soccer players.

I would be fine with transfers becoming immediately eligible though.

 

[acgclone]

The NCAA is under great pressure to give their athletes more rights. Allowing them to transfer without these ridiculous penalties seems fair considering coaches change jobs on a whim for the highest bidder.

 

[Kritscd11]

Got to love Bilas, loves jabbing the NCAA. It is corrupt. With the 5th year transfer rule already, this makes since. It hasn't been about the education for decades. Let the kids play. It'll be interesting if the Dooks, KU and Kentuckys poach these kids or stick with the one and done. It'd be interesting and shadey as ever.

 

[jbhtexas]

It would be great for blue blood schools, like the one Jay Bilas played for. Let's say Duke, UNC, or Kentucky needs an upper classman player to fill a hole left by some player leaving for the NBA or a recruit that doesn't pan out. All they would need to do is "turn on the charm" to some good player at a non-blue blood school to fill their needs. It would be particularly devastating to mid-majors who have developed good players.

Scott Drew is right. Jay Bilas is wrong.

 

[srjclone]

Jay Bilas likes to talk a lot about paying student athletes and treating them like employees since college make money off them (nevermind the fact that athletics departments SPEND most of that money on the athletes). I have never heard him discuss why a wrestler, or swimmer should get paid, even though they cost the university money. I always thought it was a Title IX issue as much as anything. You can't pay male football players and not pay female soccer players.

I would be fine with transfers becoming immediately eligible though.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/12/jay-bilas-interview/athlete-restricted-earnings

 

[mywayorcyway]

Got to love Bilas, loves jabbing the NCAA. It is corrupt. With the 5th year transfer rule already, this makes since. It hasn't been about the education for decades. Let the kids play. It'll be interesting if the Dooks, KU and Kentuckys poach these kids or stick with the one and done. It'd be interesting and shadey as ever.

This is my biggest concern. If a player can come onto the scene at a middle/low tier school, explode, and then just hop to the better school that offers next year, that will create a system I'm not as interested in.

I don't like penalizing the athletes because they're young and the coaches/schools aren't held to the same standard, but I don't know a good solution either.

 

[PineClone]

Good points that the rule is inconsistent and in some ways not fair. But it seems like there should be some disincentive to transfer, otherwise you'll have constant under-the-table recruiting and players constantly looking to jump to the next best thing. I think to make it a free-for-all would hurt the game.

 

[CycloneErik]

It would be great for blue blood schools, like the one Jay Bilas played for. Let's say Duke, UNC, or Kentucky needs an upper classman player to fill a hole left by some player leaving for the NBA or a recruit that doesn't pan out. All they would need to do is "turn on the charm" to some good player at a non-blue blood school to fill their needs. It would be particularly devastating to mid-majors who have developed good players.

Scott Drew is right. Jay Bilas is wrong.

That's a big problem.
I generally agree with Bilas on this. If coaches can go, players can, too, but I know that recruiting won't be less of a cesspool with this stuff going on. Going to a MAC school will just be a one-year audition instead of a degree plan.

But then, it kind of is already, so maybe that's no different.

 

[CloneFan4]

Got to love Bilas, loves jabbing the NCAA. It is corrupt. With the 5th year transfer rule already, this makes since. It hasn't been about the education for decades. Let the kids play. It'll be interesting if the Dooks, KU and Kentuckys poach these kids or stick with the one and done. It'd be interesting and shadey as ever.

Or not. He's a complete douche. However, he does have some valid points with this issue.

 

[Kritscd11]

Or not. He's a complete douche. However, he does have some valid points with this issue.

I agree, he is arrogant, he did go to Dook, but in the college basketball realm there isn't even anyone close to his knowledge of the game. Not even close. But yes. He's douchey lol

 

[everyyard]

Rich will get richer, so it will happen.

 

[ExCyment]

Oh look another former college athlete who thinks college athletes should be able to do whatever they want.

 

[mb7299]

I think I would be fine with transfers in the summer as long as there was like a mandatory sit out 20% of the start of the season where they transfer to. So like for basketball that would be sitting out the first 6 games or 3 for football ect.
Its about the only way I can think of that would make kids think a little before jumping ship to bigger schools.

 

[Rural]

This is my biggest concern. If a player can come onto the scene at a middle/low tier school, explode, and then just hop to the better school that offers next year, that will create a system I'm not as interested in.

I don't like penalizing the athletes because they're young and the coaches/schools aren't held to the same standard, but I don't know a good solution either.

The system has been corrupt basically forever.

 

[isu83]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...le-let-athletes-play-immediately-not-sit-year

Interesting article:

This isn't difficult. If this is really about unpaid, amateur students being treated like any other students, then the transfer policy is simple. Athletes should be able to transfer at will at any time, and immediately accept full aid elsewhere, and be eligible to play immediately upon full-time enrollment at the beginning of the quarter or semester of the next full season. Of course, this is all just talk, because the NCAA will not change its ridiculous, unjustifiable transfer policies anytime soon. The "membership input" being sought will skew toward athletes as employee-assets rather than students. It is all just talk.

Either restrict coaches or let athletes transfer unrestricted just as coaches do. IMO!

 

[Mr Janny]

The system has been corrupt basically forever.

This. It's not like the current system prevents the rich getting richer in any way. It's already dirty as dirty can be. I personally don't care if schools would be hurt by it. It's a small price to pay for fairness for the student athlete. The ncaa is trying to have it both ways. When we're talking about compensation, athletes are just like other students. When the subject is transfers, suddenly they're different. It's ridiculous. The whole system is rotten.
I'd love to see transfer rules applied to coaches as well. You want to leave? OK. You have to sit out a year. You can run practice, but no game day coaching.

 

[mywayorcyway]

This. It's not like the current system prevents the rich getting richer in any way. It's already dirty as dirty can be. I personally don't care if schools would be hurt by it. It's a small price to pay for fairness for the student athlete. The ncaa is trying to have it both ways. When we're talking about compensation, athletes are just like other students. When the subject is transfers, suddenly they're different. It's ridiculous. The whole system is rotten.
I'd love to see transfer rules applied to coaches as well. You want to leave? OK. You have to sit out a year. You can run practice, but no game day coaching.

It wouldn't be dirtier if it were legal to poach players. It would just suck. Yuck. I picture Royce White in a Dook jersey a year after he just tore the Big 12 apart. I might actually bawl if something like that happened.

Your suggestion to have transfer rules apply to coaches - LOVE that. Same goes if a school is penalized under your watch. I hate seeing the players get punished for that crap.

 

[tyler24]

Good points that the rule is inconsistent and in some ways not fair. But it seems like there should be some disincentive to transfer, otherwise you'll have constant under-the-table recruiting and players constantly looking to jump to the next best thing. I think to make it a free-for-all would hurt the game.

How about pay back the school for some of their tuition they provided. Similar to a buyout for a coach.

 

[Mr Janny]

How about pay back the school for some of their tuition they provided. Similar to a buyout for a coach.

They sure could try that, but blue bloods wouldn't need to do it, and that would pretty much guarantee that nobody would do it, not for long anyway. You'd be giving tons of ammo to schools trying to recruit against you.
The only way it would be feasible is if it was required of all schools and the he ncaa would never do that because it would be horrible optics. A PR disaster.