Since you have such great sources in Iowa City, why don't you ask them how Fant has looked in camp?
OK - who wins the game on Sept. 9th ?
- Thread starter Yellow Snow
- Start date
Since you have such great sources in Iowa City, why don't you ask them how Fant has looked in camp?
Related: Petersen called Wadley the best running back ISU plays this year. He's probably right, considering almost all of the Big 12's top rushers left. But I think Wadley and TCU's Kyle Hicks are basically the same player. Wadley faster, Hicks a better receiver, who lines up in the slot a lot.
He'll be one of the top 5 no doubt. Right up there with Justice Hill, Justin Crawford, Kyle Hicks, Terrence Williams. I'm sure Texas and Oklahoma will have a guy that ends up being one of the best in the Big 12 that nobody knows about yet.
Who's Lattimore. The guy that had one solo tackle last year and only played in 6 games?
Lattimore was definitely not a 4* recruit
http://247sports.com/Player/Cedrick-Lattimore-80068?Institution=25013
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2016/cedrick-lattimore-5578
He was dominant. But Lattimore is in the same mold. Will there be a drop off in production? As a whole unit, which was the question, I do not really think so. We lost a 3rd round pick but gained a top 25 recruit in the country to replace him along with a lot of guys with experience too. Now will Lattimore be Johnson? He could be but not at this point in his career. He is lucky he has 3 other guys that have started playing with him.
Now if you are being serious would you rather have a lattimore type recruit and player taking over or say a back up QB that got beat out starting on defense for the first time in his career..... perspective man perspective
A Lattimore type recruit? ISU brought in 3 JUCO DL that either had a similar or higher composite ranking than Lattimore.
Also Epenesa wasn't a top 25 recruit.
Is this the biggest new ISU fan talking point? "Good thing you play us early in the year, we'll be much better late in the season." All you complained about last season was that 42-3 wouldn't have happened later in the year. This year, you're getting out in front of the ass kicking and making excuses for this year's loss. It'll be fun to hear it again next year when Park is a backup safety.
Yeah I have not a clue where I got that from then. My bad! I thought he was a 4* guy. Maybe he was at one time but he most definitely was a lowly 3* at the end of the rankings. Even ESPN he was a 3*. I would include scout but I think you said they dont matter because they are scout so that doesnt count right? I am tryin to play by CyTwin rules. Hard to keep up here!
I found it! He as a top 300 player on the Scout data base. 4* on there. So he was a 4* just not according to 3 other recruiting sites. so I would say that would make hime a 3.25* composite guy. Any way you slice it he is not a player that is a scrub. Yes I include scout because they have been around a long time. 247 and ESPN are the new flavor but that comes with playing favorites too. It does with any database.
Last edited:
Again he was at one time, so top 50 then. is that good enough for you? I dont have time for all of the technical stuff today ha!
EDIT*** you cant compare composites of JUCO and HS players as they compare different players to each other. You are better then that man!
Scout and ESPN suck. Kamilo was a 4* recruit by Scout too but I consider him a 3* recruit.
http://247sports.com/Player/Kamilo-Tongamoa-81648?Institution=23676
That's funny that we recruit guys that move up in the rankings after they commit and you recruit guys that trend the other direction. Lattimore, Epenesa, this Johnson kid plus it's even worse in basketball recruiting for you guys. Guess our staff is better at identifying the under the radar kids.
If they were better then the results would show on the field... until then I am not seeing the under the radar claim.
It also should be considered that ISU also loses a lot of the higher ranked guys to better programs when their start to get ranked better, much like Iowa does too to an extent.
I'm glad you gave CMC one whole season with a decimated roster to determine that.
Thank you! I am a person that feels a guy like Johnson makes everyone around him better. There is a reason there was no drop off when Ott went down.
Should be interesting to see how that unit plays the first game
They have a 3 star recruit who had 1 tackle and only played in half the games last year to replace him so they'll be fine.
Well then it must be true.
Or maybe he is seeing htem go against an OL that is pathetic at pass pro
Iowa coaches aren't usually ones to say much so that stood out.
It is more than a bowl game. iowa fans used to use the "we get better as the season goes on" excuse when they would lose to iSu. But that never really made sense because they would lose to Purdue, NW, Indian or Minnesota later in the season.