Just heard a crazy population stat...

I couldn't imagine having more than 3 or 4 unless I was rich and could hire nannies. Hard to be able to afford to do things and have time to attend all of your kids activities. With more than that I'd probably quit my job, live off the government and play video games while they're in school.
 
No because we've never really had that, or at least not since prehistoric times. Because the people who have had the best chance to survive aren't the fittest, it's those with money or power.

We're on the cusp of many anti-aging and life elongating medicines. This obviously won't help the growing population, and similar to our healthy food discussion, the drugs to promote a longer healthier life will definitely be biased to those that can afford them.
 
We're on the cusp of many anti-aging and life elongating medicines. This obviously won't help the growing population, and similar to our healthy food discussion, the drugs to promote a longer healthier life will definitely be biased to those that can afford them.

It's not so much medicinal as therapeutic genetic alteration or gene therapies. Google CRISPR for a look at what's coming in our ability in the not so distant future to be able to affect disease by altering harmful base sequences in the DNA.
 
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It's not so much medicinal as therapeutic genetic alteration or gene therapies. Google CRISPR for a look at what's coming in our ability in the not so distant future to be able to affect disease by altering harmful base sequences in the DNA.

I just listened to Joe Rogan's most recent podcast with Dr Rhonda Patrick. They talked a lot about this kind of stuff. My mind was blown.
 
It's not so much medicinal as therapeutic genetic alteration or gene therapies. Google CRISPR for a look at what's coming in our ability in the not so distant future to be able to affect disease by altering harmful base sequences in the DNA.

CRISPR is pretty hot right now but it's important for the general public to note that it's not a cure-all for diseases. It does have its limitations, but is still an excellent launching point for the development of more accurate and wide-ranging innovations in gene therapy.

Provided FDA approvals move along, gene-edited food animals will be to the market within a decade.
 
This is unfortunately one topic where I fall into the tinfoil hat category a bit. Population is growing at an alarming rate relative to our means to support it. Without any societal changes at all, the numbers of starving people and people living in poverty increase as a byproduct of the percentages.

There is going to be a tipping point, and I'm a little afraid of what that will look like.

Somalia?
 
A "correction" to the population problem IS coming. The only question is "when?". And will the US be in a position to protect itself when it happens? Will we be affected by the correction? Will we be able to completely seal our borders to prevent literally millions of refugees from overwhelming our (to-be strained) resources? I don't know that I'm old enough even now to believe that this is one of those things that "won't happen in my lifetime." Be grateful for what we have today because we won't have it forever.
 
Population IS a problem. Curtailing it is the challenge. But, prior to having a child a 'responsible' parent should ask the simple question: "Will my child have a life equal to or better than mine?" If the answer is 'no', the solution is to not have a child. That said, the real problem to our whole global crisis is not 'just' population. It's more a matter of 'cheap'. If we focused back on 'quality', the life expectancy of an object would improve. The overall manufacturing footprint would go down. Everyone and every thing would benefit. For me the two main solutions to this global snow ball are: 1. Impose a birth tax, requiring an education bond be purchased 'before' having a child. If the parents opt out of that, then a tax for each child ongoing year by year until the child reaches 18. 2. One simple law of making the manufacturer bare the responsibility of 'recycling' would go a very long way to improving the carbon footprint of said products.
 
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Meh, it'll get figured out. There's a whole lot of ocean that being underutilized for food production. If people would stop acting like scientific advances are a boogeyman, things will be a lot better. Posilac is about gone from the dairy industry. People are ******** about GMO, blah, blah, blah. When you intentionally try to stop progress of course it will make things harder for people to survive and thrive.
 
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How can you get the world population to stop having so many kids? Two is more than enough.
 
Meh, it'll get figured out. There's a whole lot of ocean that being underutilized for food production. If people would stop acting like scientific advances are a boogeyman, things will be a lot better. Posilac is about gone from the dairy industry. People are ******** about GMO, blah, blah, blah. When you intentionally try to stop progress of course it will make things harder for people to survive and thrive.

Exactly. This whole Malthusian bogeyman makes me sad. Basically it's pushed by two groups; those who actually believe it and those who cynically push it to further their own agendas and to gather power and money.

The sky is falling, the earth is flat, close the patent office, and there are too many people. Every generation lives in a bubble. Every generation thinks current reality is the cat's meow and all future and previous generations do not compute.

Personally, I think human beings are the most valuable commodity on earth and the countries with more people (allowed to operate freely, of course) will become stronger and countries with less people will become weaker. This population scare assumes no or minimal technological advances and really undervalues human ingenuity and resourcefulness.
 
I just listened to Joe Rogan's most recent podcast with Dr Rhonda Patrick. They talked a lot about this kind of stuff. My mind was blown.

Didn't someone on this site post once that there is a credible scientist that has stated that they believe the person that will live to be 1,000 years old has already been born. I read that somewhere, I thought it was on here.

If that comes to be true, that throws a huge wrench into everything. So do you have to work for 7 or 8 hundred years before retiring? I don't want to work that long dammit!!
 
This is unfortunately one topic where I fall into the tinfoil hat category a bit. Population is growing at an alarming rate relative to our means to support it. Without any societal changes at all, the numbers of starving people and people living in poverty increase as a byproduct of the percentages.

There is going to be a tipping point, and I'm a little afraid of what that will look like.

Shakes head. Wrong. The tinfoil hat community thinks this BS about overpopulation is just another one World government con.

One question, whose grand children do you want to prevent, mine or yours?
 
I think ironically we will get our butts kicked by something simple like a bacteria or virus. The human race has gotten supremely arrogant and past history has shown that once people are not preoccupied with surviving, they tend to become more absurd and deviant until something outside their realm wipes them out. Look at the Romans.
 
Shakes head. Wrong. The tinfoil hat community thinks this BS about overpopulation is just another one World government con.

One question, whose grand children do you want to prevent, mine or yours?
Definitely yours. I won't have any, but for the sake of others, definitely yours.
 
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