Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

[Pitt_Clone]

This thread says it all.

https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/peter-jok.181667/

Everything we've been talking about, here, regarding Jok. He's officially under the bus along with all of the other outgoing Hawkeye Seniors who their fans have fallen out of love with.

Ha ha, my favorite part was Uncle Rico saying he knows about basketball because he started on a state tournament team in 1970.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Can we turn this thread into a Hawkeye CBI bubble watch thread?

FIFY

 

[Stewo]

Ha ha, my favorite part was Uncle Rico saying he knows about basketball because he started on a state tournament team in 1970.

How incredibly fitting of a handle for him.

 

[peteypie]

Can we turn this thread into a bubble watch thread?

Iowas bubble watch in January:

 

[Pitt_Clone]

How incredibly fitting of a handle for him.

Sorry, that wasn't his actual name on the forum, I just called him that because of what he said.

 

[Stewo]

Sorry, that wasn't his actual name on the forum, I just called him that because of what he said.

Well done then!

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

He is putting up numbers as a freshman that are comparable to Matt Thomas and Naz as sophomores.

LOL, you clearly don't understand what their roles were on those teams...

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

But their numbers as sophomores are comparable to Moss' numbers as a freshman, not sure how you can disagree. Naz averaged 0.3 more PPG on 0.5 less shots per game as a sophomore than Moss averages as a freshman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61211/nazareth-mitrou-long

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66147/matt-thomas

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3935015/isaiah-moss

Hawkeye math is my favorite.

 

[Bigman38]

Hawkeye fans are super salty on Twitter tonight

Their season is over now, their dreams of ISU missing the tournament were crushed.

 

[YeahBuddy]

@YeahBuddy, just checking to see if my 10-8 is optimistic still.

Thanks for the mention, it means a lot that I am one of the first things you think of after a nice win by your squad.

Good road win for the Clones.

 

[YeahBuddy]

LOL, you clearly don't understand what their roles were on those teams...

Seems like their roles were similar. 4th or 5th scoring options on the floor and comparable MPG played for Thomas and Naz as sophomores and Moss as a freshman.

 

[CyTwins]

Seems like their roles were similar. 4th or 5th scoring options on the floor and comparable MPG played for Thomas and Naz as sophomores and Moss as a freshman.

Everyone here thought Thomas sucked as a sophomore FWIW. I'm not sure why people think Moss is good. He doesn't do anything great offensively and he sucks on defense. Every time I watch him he seems to lose his guy and Fran benches him

 

[YeahBuddy]

Lets not forget that Matt and Naz played on a tourney team with 4 other payers that were averaging in double figures. Who's getting the designed touches that Moss should be getting? He probably gets much better looks/opportunities than the 4th and 5th scoring option on a cyclone team that had 2 very efficient players to run plays to.

And still much more efficient on offense in both cases and much better on defense. Not really that close.

That is not true.

Guess the players:

Player A: 4.9 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 36.8% FG, 33.0%, 3PFG, 71.4% FT, 15.3 MPG

Player B: 6.8 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 42.6% FG, 36.5% 3PFG, 79.3% FT, 17.2 MPG

Player C: 7.1 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 43.2 % FG, 40.0% 3PFG, 64.3% FT, 20.3 MPG


And by the explanation in your post, Naz and Thomas had much better offensive players on the court with them meaning they would have better scoring opportunities and receive less focus of the defense.

 

[Gonzo]

@Gonzo

Yeah that was a bit of a wiff but in my defense I don't think anyone expected Bohannon to be such a force at PG so quickly.

 

[CyTwins]

That is not true.

Guess the players:

Player A: 4.9 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 36.8% FG, 33.0%, 3PFG, 71.4% FT, 15.3 MPG

Player B: 6.8 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 42.6% FG, 36.5% 3PFG, 79.3% FT, 17.2 MPG

Player C: 7.1 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 43.2 % FG, 40.0% 3PFG, 64.3% FT, 20.3 MPG


And by the explanation in your post, Naz and Thomas had much better offensive players on the court with them meaning they would have better scoring opportunities and receive less focus of the defense.

A is Matt, he really really sucked that year, B is probably Moss and C is Naz because I know he shot 40% from 3 his sophomore year

 

[Gunnerclone]

I'm also curious why Hawkeye fans think Moss is going to be good?

That is not true.

Guess the players:

Player A: 4.9 PPG, 2.0 RPG, 36.8% FG, 33.0%, 3PFG, 71.4% FT, 15.3 MPG

Player B: 6.8 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 42.6% FG, 36.5% 3PFG, 79.3% FT, 17.2 MPG

Player C: 7.1 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 43.2 % FG, 40.0% 3PFG, 64.3% FT, 20.3 MPG


And by the explanation in your post, Naz and Thomas had much better offensive players on the court with them meaning they would have better scoring opportunities and receive less focus of the defense.

Or not get nearly as many opportunities. Duh.

 

[YeahBuddy]

Or not get nearly as many opportunities. Duh.

Comparable.

Shots per game as sophomores:

Thomas: 4.5
Naz: 5.5

Shots per game for Moss as a freshman:

6.0

 

[CyTwins]

Comparable.

Shots per game as sophomores:

Thomas: 4.5
Naz: 5.5

Shots per game for Moss as a freshman:

6.0

So Moss shoots more than Naz did, scores less plus is a worst defender? Great comparison!

 

[Bigman38]

And by the explanation in your post, Naz and Thomas had much better offensive players on the court with them meaning they would have better scoring opportunities and receive less focus of the defense.

This is real dumb, and you should feel bad.

They played with 2 NBA players, probably 3 after this season. They were rotation players who just needed to hit a shot every once in awhile. If they were surrounded by the "talent" Iowa has they would have better stats because they'd have different roles. I can go through most garbage teams, like Iowa, and find mediocre players with good stats.

I feel likes it's groundhogs day, Iowa fans keep coming up with the same weak argument year after year. You would think that being wrong every single time would eventually open your eyes.

 

[Cydkar]

Docholihawk post from last year after the tournament:

While we are disappointed with the way things turned out, would you rather be a cyfan who can't beat division 2 football teams and a basketball team that next year won't be competitive. I would rather get close and fail than be a total loser.