Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

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Who? You are average at best (that's being generous) right now and you're losing by far your best player and replacing him with nobody of significance. You're really putting all your eggs in the "our current players are drastically going to improve" basket right now

If Iowa fans don't think losing Jok is going to be a huge blow then they are delusional. Much like Niang, Jok makes everyone around him a much better player and we have obviously struggled in the post Niang era and that's with much better talent than what Iowa will be putting on the floor next year. Cue the "we won 3 games without him" comment....
 
If Iowa fans don't think losing Jok is going to be a huge blow then they are delusional. Much like Niang, Jok makes everyone around him a much better player and we have obviously struggled in the post Niang era and that's with much better talent than what Iowa will be putting on the floor next year. Cue the "we won 3 games without him" comment....
yeah 3 games against the bottom of the barrel teams. Congratulations to Iowa, they might have a shot of finishing 10 out of 14 in a garbage conference and being on the NIT bubble again next year. I'm sure they are all MAD again.
 
Who? You are average at best (that's being generous) right now and you're losing by far your best player and replacing him with nobody of significance. You're really putting all your eggs in the "our current players are drastically going to improve" basket right now
There are and would be plenty of people outside of this forum that would classify Iowa's backcourt next year as being average. Iowa State's backcourt should be and probably will be better than Iowa's next year. I mean, average isn't good? It is below good, I don't know why you are on such a big schtick about someone saying they'll be average.

What stats do average P5 backcourts put up? What is an average P5 backcourt?
 
There are and would be plenty of people outside of this forum that would classify Iowa's backcourt next year as being average. Iowa State's backcourt should be and probably will be better than Iowa's next year. I mean, average isn't good? It is below good, I don't know why you are on such a big schtick about someone saying they'll be average.

What stats do average P5 backcourts put up? What is an average P5 backcourt?

No true point guard and a bunch of one dimensional guards is not what I would call an average back court....
 
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No true point guard and a bunch of one dimensional guards is not what I would call an average back court....
Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine as a true freshman. Moss hopefully takes another step forward and becomes a more consistent player next year. Ellingson is a shooter and that is fine for his role. McCaffery will add size and he can shoot well, but don't know about him until everyone sees him play a college game.

Why is Iowa State's backcourt going to be soooo much better? Iowa State loses a great college player, and three more really good and experienced backcourt players. That is a ton to replace with guys who haven't played all that much and true freshman.
 
I hope Iowa State can get to that 3 seed in the Big 12 tourney. Then I don't have to go down to KC Wednesday night and can go Thursday morning and enjoy the P&L district leading up to the night capper. It was really fun down there leading up to those night games that Thursday last year.
JFC. How many f'in' hok fans are going to come on here and pretend to care about the Cyclones and get outed before they f'in' stop? We just don't fall for it. Unlike the tavernhoks, our fans are generally pretty well educated.

Go Cyclones! **** Iowa!
 
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Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine as a true freshman. Moss hopefully takes another step forward and becomes a more consistent player next year. Ellingson is a shooter and that is fine for his role. McCaffery will add size and he can shoot well, but don't know about him until everyone sees him play a college game.

Why is Iowa State's backcourt going to be soooo much better? Iowa State loses a great college player, and three more really good and experienced backcourt players. That is a ton to replace with guys who haven't played all that much and true freshman.
Wiggi will probably be a 5* guy by some services for the final rankings. There was an article by one of the services (Rivals I think?) saying he would be the one 4* that would be the hardest not to make a 5. 5* guys are pretty sure things. Couple that with DJ and NWB who have proven themselves adequately this season and that is why.
 
Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine as a true freshman. Moss hopefully takes another step forward and becomes a more consistent player next year. Ellingson is a shooter and that is fine for his role. McCaffery will add size and he can shoot well, but don't know about him until everyone sees him play a college game.

Why is Iowa State's backcourt going to be soooo much better? Iowa State loses a great college player, and three more really good and experienced backcourt players. That is a ton to replace with guys who haven't played all that much and true freshman.

LOL
 
Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine as a true freshman. Moss hopefully takes another step forward and becomes a more consistent player next year. Ellingson is a shooter and that is fine for his role. McCaffery will add size and he can shoot well, but don't know about him until everyone sees him play a college game.

Why is Iowa State's backcourt going to be soooo much better? Iowa State loses a great college player, and three more really good and experienced backcourt players. That is a ton to replace with guys who haven't played all that much and true freshman.

Iowa's PG is doing fine? Lol!
 
JFC. How many f'in' hok fans are going to come on here and pretend to care about the Cyclones and get outed before they f'in' stop? We just don't fall for it. Unlike the tavernhoks, our fans are generally pretty well educated.

Go Cyclones! **** Iowa!
I actually hope they get to a 3 seed for the reasons I gave. I don't really care how deep Iowa State goes in any tourney, I don't care if they win or lose, doesn't affect my life. I do like conversation about the two programs though, both basketball and football, it's fun and a good way to waste some time.

What are tavernhoks? Still haven't got a definition on that one. Also, CyTwins and 1976 say some pretty uneducated things.
 
Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine as a true freshman. Moss hopefully takes another step forward and becomes a more consistent player next year. Ellingson is a shooter and that is fine for his role. McCaffery will add size and he can shoot well, but don't know about him until everyone sees him play a college game.

Why is Iowa State's backcourt going to be soooo much better? Iowa State loses a great college player, and three more really good and experienced backcourt players. That is a ton to replace with guys who haven't played all that much and true freshman.

In his defense, I would probably state it this way, "Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine at shooting free throws in a small sample size as a true freshman."
 
I actually hope they get to a 3 seed for the reasons I gave. I don't really care how deep Iowa State goes in any tourney, I don't care if they win or lose, doesn't affect my life. I do like conversation about the two programs though, both basketball and football, it's fun and a good way to waste some time.

What are tavernhoks? Still haven't got a definition on that one. Also, CyTwins and 1976 say some pretty uneducated things.
If we're being honest, I would almost rather stay at the 4 spot. Oklahoma State scares the bajesus out of me and I think they are going to finish in the 6 spot
 
In his defense, I would probably state it this way, "Iowa returns their point guard who is doing fine at shooting free throws in a small sample size as a true freshman."
Well he is averaging more ppg and apg than Monte did his freshman year playing the same amount of minutes, also better stats than Matt Thomas. Now, am I saying he will be as good as either of those two when it is all said and done, hell no, not many are. But, I think he is doing fine as a true freshman pg.
 
I actually hope they get to a 3 seed for the reasons I gave. I don't really care how deep Iowa State goes in any tourney, I don't care if they win or lose, doesn't affect my life. I do like conversation about the two programs though, both basketball and football, it's fun and a good way to waste some time.

What are tavernhoks? Still haven't got a definition on that one. Also, CyTwins and 1976 say some pretty uneducated things.

You would know if you were a Cyclone fan.
 
I feel like 9.2 ppg, 4.5 apg, and a 2:1 turnover ratio is fine for a true freshman pg, yes.
He can't guard anyone and he plays in the worst Power 5 conference in the country. If you think he is fine I want some of whatever you are smoking.
 
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If we're being honest, I would almost rather stay at the 4 spot. Oklahoma State scares the bajesus out of me and I think they are going to finish in the 6 spot
I'm totally being honest. I want Iowa State to play the Thursday night game. only chance that happens is to be either 3 or 6, 3 is a lot more likely than 6 imo. So, I want them to be a 3. I don't want them to play Thursday morning, cause that means I have to go down there Wednesday night. Three straight days/nights of drinking is more doable than four for me now lol.
 
Well he is averaging more ppg and apg than Monte did his freshman year playing the same amount of minutes, also better stats than Matt Thomas. Now, am I saying he will be as good as either of those two when it is all said and done, hell no, not many are. But, I think he is doing fine as a true freshman pg.

There it is, basically a wash amirite? It's funny how all the "new" hawk posters have the same terrible comparisons the old ones did.
 
He can't guard anyone and he plays in the worst Power 5 conference in the country. If you think he is fine I want some of whatever you are smoking.
I don't smoke, never have. I do drink though. I'll take whatever you are drinking that makes you think Iowa State will win 38-13....
 
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