NBA: ***Official 2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread***

Westbrook is averaging a triple double. He's on a mission this year. Is there any way he doesn't win the MVP?
 
Westbrook is averaging a triple double. He's on a mission this year. Is there any way he doesn't win the MVP?

He has to be the favorite for now. But they'll have to keep winning. If he ends up being the best player on a 45 win team then the voters are going to look at other candidates. It could be there that the season will end with a glut of players with gaudy numbers on 40-50 win teams - Harden in Houston, Davis in New Orleans, Russ in OKC - that could split the vote, leaving the award to go to the best player on the best team, which would be KD or Lebron.
 
I usually skip the All Star game, but this year's edition might be worth taking in. Some of the young talent in this league is insane. KAT, Giannis, Porzingis, Anthony Davis...the NBA is in good shape for their post Lebron era.
 
He has to be the favorite for now. But they'll have to keep winning. If he ends up being the best player on a 45 win team then the voters are going to look at other candidates. It could be there that the season will end with a glut of players with gaudy numbers on 40-50 win teams - Harden in Houston, Davis in New Orleans, Russ in OKC - that could split the vote, leaving the award to go to the best player on the best team, which would be KD or Lebron.
If he goes most of the year averaging a triple double I feel like he has to win it even if the thunder do bad. It's probably going to be Leborn, Russ or Davis who wins it.
 
God the Bulls are Jekyll and Hyde. Lose at home to Lakers, beat Cavs at home and now looking like they will give the Mavs their 4th win of the year.
 
So bulls lose 3 straight after beating cavs and then beat the Spurs. If only the Bulls played only the really good teams all the time.
 
Bulls lose at home to Thibs and t-wolves. Wins over Cleveland and San Antonio don't mean **** if can't beat **** teams like Dallas and Minnesota.
 
Bulls lose at home to Thibs and t-wolves. Wins over Cleveland and San Antonio don't mean **** if can't beat **** teams like Dallas and Minnesota.

The T-Wolves came back!? I saw they were down by ~20 in the first 5 minutes and turned to a different channel.
 
Bulls are really good when everyone is playing and they are hitting shots but a lot of times it seems it is Butler and Wade vs the other team. No one else contributes much and Wade can only do so much considering his age. Really doesn't matter. They will make the playoffs but no one will challenge the Cavs in the East. Bulls are kind of stuck in no man's land right now. good enough to make the playoffs but not good enough to win a title and not bad enough to get a top pick.
 
Anyone who watched that game know Minnesota took it. Chicago had the lead big, early, and got complacent. Anybody who has watched this Timberwolves team this year knows they can go on huge runs. Timberwolves wanted it more, and it wasn't like Chicago just rolled over and died, it really didn't help that Rondo wsa out in late-game situations. Chicago is a solid team this year, but I don't think you should count the T-Wolves loss in the realm of a Dallas loss. Timberwolves will have a nice stretch of winning basketball at some point in the year, and will have a respectable(i didn't say winning) record by the end of the season. Anyone can look at the T-Wolves record, and assume they are terrible. But that just isn't the case, they are a team full of young-streaky players. Their oldest regular rotation player is 28, in Cole Aldridge. If you look at their 3 quarters per game and take out their lowest quarter, they probably stack up with anyone, they just have long lapses that take them out of the game. It happens, especially with a young team of budding stars that are learning a new system under a demanding coach. It has been hard to watch some of these games as a T-Wolves fan, but I actually am really happy of where I see strides in our play. I mean, 3-21 year olds, on the same team, averaging almost their age or more is unheard of. The future is bright, and losing to this team this year is not a "bad loss" for teams, because the Wolves are capable of just going absolutely off (i.e. last 3 minutes of 1st half and 3rd quarter).

As a person who grew up in Chicago, I am always happy to see the bulls do well, and if I were a bulls fan this year, I would be happy with what the team has done, and can do this season.
 
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Bulls are really good when everyone is playing and they are hitting shots but a lot of times it seems it is Butler and Wade vs the other team. No one else contributes much and Wade can only do so much considering his age. Really doesn't matter. They will make the playoffs but no one will challenge the Cavs in the East. Bulls are kind of stuck in no man's land right now. good enough to make the playoffs but not good enough to win a title and not bad enough to get a top pick.

At this point I'm not sure there's any team in the East who can give the Cavs a good series in the playoffs. Maybe Toronto. I'm disappointed in Detroit. As an eight seed last year they gave Cleveland a better challenge than the 4-0 series result indicated. I thought they were primed to take a step forward this year but they've been really inconsistent. You could say the same for the Celtics. And for all the young talent in Milwaukee, the Bucks still look like they're a year away. Indiana needs to swing a trade for some spacing and shooting, but their only real assets are Paul George and Myles Turner and I'm pretty sure neither of those two are going anywhere. Not with Turner hitting shots like this:



That's a seven footer draining a step back three, folks.
 
At this point I'm not sure there's any team in the East who can give the Cavs a good series in the playoffs. Maybe Toronto. I'm disappointed in Detroit. As an eight seed last year they gave Cleveland a better challenge than the 4-0 series result indicated. I thought they were primed to take a step forward this year but they've been really inconsistent. You could say the same for the Celtics. And for all the young talent in Milwaukee, the Bucks still look like they're a year away. Indiana needs to swing a trade for some spacing and shooting, but their only real assets are Paul George and Myles Turner and I'm pretty sure neither of those two are going anywhere. Not with Turner hitting shots like this:



That's a seven footer draining a step back three, folks.

Not saying that isn't impressive, and Miles Turner is a great young player for sure. But 7 footers making step back 3s is becoming more and more prevalent in the NBA. Not too long from now, this will probably be almost a necessity for posts, unless you're strictly a defensive presence, but even then you can have that in your arsenal (see Serge Ibaka)
 
Not saying that isn't impressive, and Miles Turner is a great young player for sure. But 7 footers making step back 3s is becoming more and more prevalent in the NBA. Not too long from now, this will probably be almost a necessity for posts, unless you're strictly a defensive presence, but even then you can have that in your arsenal (see Serge Ibaka)

I'm still not seeing them on a regular basis. It's one thing to have a big who can hit a decent percentage of catch and shoot three. Those guys are rare enough as it is. Virtually every team in the league would love to add a competent stretch four or stretch five to their rotation. But it's a very short list of current NBA post players who can do what Turner did there and be an elite rim protector on the defensive end. Could it be more commonplace in the future? Sure, maybe. I think position-less basketball is the trend in basketball right now, and we are going to see more big guys with skills that extend beyond the block. But it's a big difference between wanting post players who can make perimeter plays like that and actually having a player who can do it. Most teams are still in the former category.
 
I'm still not seeing them on a regular basis. It's one thing to have a big who can hit a decent percentage of catch and shoot three. Those guys are rare enough as it is. Virtually every team in the league would love to add a competent stretch four or stretch five to their rotation. But it's a very short list of current NBA post players who can do what Turner did there and be an elite rim protector on the defensive end. Could it be more commonplace in the future? Sure, maybe. I think position-less basketball is the trend in basketball right now, and we are going to see more big guys with skills that extend beyond the block. But it's a big difference between wanting post players who can make perimeter plays like that and actually having a player who can do it. Most teams are still in the former category.
Fair. But there are 11 centers in the league right now that have attempted more than 40 threes, and Miles Turner is not one of them. Of those 11, only one is shooting under 32%, and that is Frank Kaminsky who came in pegged as a Center who can spread and shoot the 3. You are right in saying that actually having players who can do it is the want of the NBA right now, but over 1/3 of them already have their Centers shooting (and making) 3s more consistently. And that isn't even taking PFs who play 5 as well, which is a normalcy in the NBA when "small-ball" is being played, those numbers is strictly centers. 5 years ago you would have maybe 1 center in the league who would have over 40 threes at this point int the season, that's a huge jump and it is only becoming more of the norm with every recruit coming from high school. I guess, I don't disagree with you at all, I am just saying that the game is going(already has?) that way. I guess I do watch the Timberwolves every night they play and watch Karl Anthony Towns do what Turner did, regularly. And then watching the college games, those may be skewing my belief a bit.
 
When will the T wolves start being good? They have 2 of the best young talents, yet they're 7-18.
 

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