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You realize all the teams Iowa didn't play last year they will have to play eventually all in one year. It is how the conference scheduling works.
 
crashdavis said:
Just ridiculous. Besides Oklahoma, who lost to frickin' Texas last year, who else in the Big 12 makes it such a superior conference? I think TCU is a very good program. Okie St is decent. Baylor will implode, K-St is about ready to fall off the cliff and Texas is a joke. Who is left? Texas Tech, West Virginia? Seriously? Also, all the college pundits and NFL personnel must have an inherent bias against the Big 12 otherwise why would the Big 10 exponentially crush the Big 12 in All-Americans and draft choices each year?
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40% of the Big 12 is ranked in the preseason, 28% of the Big Ten is ranked. 44% of ISU's conference schedule is against a ranked team, 11% of Iowa's schedule is against a ranked team. If you don't think the Big 12 is superior you're clearly very biased. That's not saying the Big 12 is the best because it's not, the SEC is, but comparing it to the Big Ten it's night and day difference. Name one other team out there that only plays 1 ranked team in conference play. I'll wait
 
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Wrong. The Big 12 has less teams so percentage skewed and what ranking? Top 10, 25, 50? And we are talking talent Twins. What is fatal to your position is the NFL draft when it comes to talent. How does the Big 12 do against the SEC and Big 10 there? So if your position is correct, a proposition vehemently denied, then the SEC should have the most players drafted and then Big 10 should be behind the Big 12. However, the Big 10 crushes the Big 12 every year come draft day. And it will only get worse as time goes on with Michigan on the rise and the Big 12 considering adding New Mexico and South Florida.
 
crashdavis said:
Wrong. The Big 12 has less teams so percentage skewed and what ranking? Top 10, 25, 50? And we are talking talent Twins. What is fatal to your position is the NFL draft when it comes to talent. How does the Big 12 do against the SEC and Big 10 there? So if your position is correct, a proposition vehemently denied, then the SEC should have the most players drafted and then Big 10 should be behind the Big 12. However, the Big 10 crushes the Big 12 every year come draft day. And it will only get worse as time goes on with Michigan on the rise and the Big 12 considering adding New Mexico and South Florida.
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crashdavis said:
Wrong. The Big 12 has less teams so percentage skewed and what ranking? Top 10, 25, 50? And we are talking talent Twins. What is fatal to your position is the NFL draft when it comes to talent. How does the Big 12 do against the SEC and Big 10 there? So if your position is correct, a proposition vehemently denied, then the SEC should have the most players drafted and then Big 10 should be behind the Big 12. However, the Big 10 crushes the Big 12 every year come draft day. And it will only get worse as time goes on with Michigan on the rise and the Big 12 considering adding New Mexico and South Florida.
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I'm gonna move this along.

Rebuttal: B1G has four more teams, obviously they'll have more draft picks.
Rebuttal to Rebuttal: B1G still averaged more picks per team than Big 12
Rebuttal to Rebuttal of Rebuttal: Yeah but Iowa doesn't play against most of those picks

I'll let you take it from there.
 
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On a serious note does any other team only play one preseason top 25 team in the country besides Iowa?
 
Wrong again. Run the numbers and you still lose. Somebody already did the math Twins. Come on you are way better than that. And also riddle me this, if the Big 12 has such superior talent and coaching versus the Big 10, then how on God's green earth does the Big 10 have higher ranked recruiting classes and a higher percentage of NFL draft picks? That is broken down based on the number of teams per conference so a net comparison not a gross comparison. That my Twins friend, has nothing to do with strength of schedule. It has to do with talent and talent development for each conference. Your turn champ.
 
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CyTwins said:
On a serious note does any other team only play one preseason top 25 team in the country besides Iowa?
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Yes, lots, because after week 1 the season has started, the preseason is over, and the preseason rankings are irrelevant. Much more relevant who's ranked in week 2, 3, 4, etc. when week 2, 3, 4 roll around than who was in the preseason rankings.
 
Gonzo said:
Yes, lots, because after week 1 the season has started, the preseason is over, and the preseason rankings are irrelevant. Much more relevant who's ranked in week 2, 3, 4, etc. when week 2, 3, 4 roll around than who was in the preseason rankings.
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Sorry if I didn't make it clear. Right now does any other team only have one preseason ranked top 25 team on their schedule besides Iowa?
 
crashdavis said:
Wrong again. Run the numbers and you still lose. Somebody already did the math Twins. Come on you are way better than that. And also riddle me this, if the Big 12 has such superior talent and coaching versus the Big 10, then how on God's green earth does the Big 10 have higher ranked recruiting classes and a higher percentage of NFL draft picks? That is broken down based on the number of teams per conference so a net comparison not a gross comparison. That my Twins friend, has nothing to do with strength of schedule. It has to do with talent and talent development for each conference. Your turn champ.
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You guys can have better recruiting rankings, more "talent", more draft picks or whatever helps you sleep at night. The Big 12 and SEC have the better teams and that's all that really matters. That's a fact

I'm sure you agree Abdel Nader was better in college than Jarrod Uthoff because Nader was drafted and Uthoff wasn't right?
 
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CyTwins said:
Sorry if I didn't make it clear. Right now does any other team only have one preseason ranked top 25 team on their schedule besides Iowa?
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Yeah but still not very relevant. Nearly half the teams ranked in last year's pre-season top 25 finished the season unranked.
 
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CyTwins said:
You guys can have better recruiting rankings, more "talent", more draft picks or whatever helps you sleep at night. The Big 12 and SEC have the better teams and that's all that really matters. That's a fact

I'm sure you agree Abdel Nader was better in college than Jarrod Uthoff because Nader was drafted and Uthoff wasn't right?
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You'd think they'd do better in bowl games.
 
Gonzo said:
Yeah but still not very relevant. Nearly half the teams ranked in last year's pre-season top 25 finished the season unranked.
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I get that and I get that Hawkeye fans will still brag about being ranked in the preseason top 25 this year even though they won't end up there. That still doesn't answer my question.

I already went through and looked at every Big 12 conference schedule and every team in the big boy conference plays at least 3 preseason top 25 teams. Your turn, does any other team in the country besides Iowa only play 1 preseason top 25 team?
 
CyTwins said:
I get that and I get that Hawkeye fans will still brag about being ranked in the preseason top 25 this year even though they won't end up there. That still doesn't answer my question.

I already went through and looked at every Big 12 conference schedule and every team in the big boy conference plays at least 3 preseason top 25 teams. Your turn, does any other team in the country besides Iowa only play 1 preseason top 25 team?
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Given how much you've been wrong lately, I'd assume that yes there is. But I'm not going to look through the schedules of 120+ teams, so I'll let you have that one.

Point remains. Last year Iowa only had 1 preseason top-25 team on its schedule and by season's end they'd played 4 teams in the final top 25 and went 2-2. So I guess congrats for playing and in all likelihood losing to more teams on your schedule that people think might be good before a single game has been played.
 
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Gonzo said:
Given how much you've been wrong lately, I'd assume that yes there is. But I'm not going to look through the schedules of 120+ teams, so I'll let you have that one.

Point remains. Last year Iowa only had 1 preseason top-25 team on its schedule and by season's end they'd played 4 teams in the final top 25 and went 2-2. So I guess congrats for playing and in all likelihood losing to more teams on your schedule that people think might be good before a single game has been played.
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Last year Iowa had 1 preseason top 25 team on their regular season schedule (Wisconsin #20) and ended up playing 2 teams in the regular season in the final top 25 (Wisconsin #21 and Northwestern #23)
 
CyTwins said:
Last year Iowa had 1 preseason top 25 team on their regular season schedule (Wisconsin #20) and ended up playing 2 teams in the regular season in the final top 25 (Wisconsin #21 and Northwestern #23)
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Ah, so we CAN say we finished 12-0 in 2015. Sweet.
 
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