Just stop. Close thread, move on...he left us. No reason to blame him, but we don't need to act like he rules ISU. Prohm actually wants to be here.
If hoiberg called Pollard and wanted to come back..
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Uhh...while he wasn't the best recruiter, I don't think that 'winning with someone else's recruits' is something you can hang on Fred. The cupboard was absofrigginloutely bare when he took over from McDermott. That's why he had to take so many transfers. Yeah, he kinda stunk at HS recruiting other than those first few years, but he didn't win with someone else's recruits.
Someone please tell me what I said that was inaccurate.
I understand that Fred lovers don't want to hear the truth, but Fred wanted out of here. I don't know why, but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain.
I don't doubt that Fred loves ISU, he just didn't want to work at ISU anymore for whatever reason?
This thread is great.
And as far as Aioli, only if its garlic aioli, which my computer keeps wanting to change to ravioli. So my ranking goes:
Ravioli
Aoili
Mayo
Miracle Hwip.
And as far as Aioli, only if its garlic aioli, which my computer keeps wanting to change to ravioli. So my ranking goes:
Ravioli
Aoili
Mayo
Miracle Hwip.
Fred has never won with someone else's recruits. He came in after 5-6 straight tourney-less seasons and brought in enough talent to take us to 4 straight with his own players (and set Prohm up for a 5th).
All we know about Prohm at this point is that he lost his best recruiter to SDSU. Other than that, we haven't seen enough to know.
IMHO, He wasn't "interested" in the Minny job, he used it as leverage to get a re-up on his contract, and to keep his name in the public for his real interest, an NBA job. Can I prove that? No, but I don't think that if he were really interested in just getting out of ISU, he would have agreed to the huge buyout for a college team and a small one for an NBA job.
In his defense he said career, not just at ISU.
But on the other hand Prohm has accomplished 50% or more than what Fred did...
NCAA tourneys - Fred 4, Prohm 2
Sweet 16s - Fred 1, Prohm 1
Conf tourney champs - Fred 2, Prohm 1
Reg season conf champs - Fred 0, Prohm 4
total wins - Fred 115 (67.3%), Prohm 127 (75.6%)
And they've both been head coach for 5 years. So, there you go.
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how is it acting like a 2 year old to simply say he didn't like being the coach here? It's not.
yeah. I don't believe that. But I won't say that you are acting like a two year old by thinking that!
in my opinion, it makes people feel better to think:
a. The Bulls were his dream in life.
B. He had no interest in the gophers job and just decided to interview to improve his interviewing skills.
C. His health is such that he can only coach for a few more years so he took his dream while he could. This one, to me is the most awful because people must assume that he'd rather spend time coaching than with his family. And personally I would hate it if his health his that bad.
On a related subject, Fred's top assistant is being considered by the pacers. And his other two assistants including Charlie Henry are on the chopping block. Fred and prohm might be able to discuss how much it sucks to lose your top assistant.
then it seems odd to coach at all. Will he sign a 3 year contract if the Bulls fire him next year? Or is it just about the money?
twins said he doesn't like coaching at all and will retire after 5 years. He signed a 5 year contract. If the Bulls fire him before 5 years, I'm curious if he will find a job for the remaining years. Or if he just wanted the 5 year money.