Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

I don't think a 3 is in play for either. A 4 maybe, if they win their tournament. But at best a 4.

So if ISU beats OK, West Virginia and Kansas they wouldn't be a 3 seed or at least considered? If Iowa beats Purdue, Indiana and MSU they wouldn't get consideration for a 3 seed?

 

[JohnnyFive]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

So if ISU beats OK, West Virginia and Kansas they wouldn't be a 3 seed or at least considered? If Iowa beats Purdue, Indiana and MSU they wouldn't get consideration for a 3 seed?

No I don't think so. Im not an expert though. I think both teams have lost enough games that a 3 is unrealistic. Although ISU's losses are all to probable tournament teams and 8 of the 10 are to ranked teams, I don't see it.

 

[SolarGarlic]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

I'm not talking about ISU possibly bumping up to a 3 seed (although with 10 losses that would be relatively unheard of (yes I know the crazy year this has been)).

I was going more for Iowa dropping down from an expected 5 seed to a 7 seed with 10 losses.

I'd say both teams have a lot of potential to move up to the 3/4 line, but basement is likely the 6 seed, IMO.

So unheard of that it happened last season. Oklahoma was 22-10 and a 3 seed.

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

So unheard of that it happened last season. Oklahoma was 22-10 and a 3 seed.

North Carolina was a 4 seed with 11 losses. Numbers of losses doesn't really matter, look at who ISU has had to play this year

 

[Jacktronic]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

Yep, anywhere from 7 to 3 seed is in play for Iowa. Anywhere from 6 to 3 is in play for ISU. Only thing that matters to Iowa is somehow getting back in the Des Moines discussion. Will need two wins for that to happen. I don't think it matters much for ISU what their seed is. They have proven they can play with anybody.

I would be surprised if two wins (Minn or Ill and Purdue) would get Iowa back to DSM.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

No I don't think so. Im not an expert though. I think both teams have lost enough games that a 3 is unrealistic. Although ISU's losses are all to probable tournament teams and 8 of the 10 are to ranked teams, I don't see it.

This is what to expect. Losses in double digits is hard to get a great seed. 1983 NCS won the championship as a six seeds with ten losses. They had third place in ACC. They cruised with two one point wins and two two-point wins.

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

I would be surprised if two wins (Minn or Ill and Purdue) would get Iowa back to DSM.

Not saying it would, but they would be in the discussion.

 

[SolarGarlic]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

This is what to expect. Losses in double digits is hard to get a great seed. 1983 NCS won the championship as a six seeds with ten losses. They had third place in ACC. They cruised with two one point wins and two two-point wins.

Using the 1983 bracket as a guide for 2016. Only Wesley. Now can we get a "Nebby" reference?

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

North Carolina was a 4 seed with 11 losses. Numbers of losses doesn't really matter, look at who ISU has had to play this year

What? Is this serious? Of course the number of losses matter. If UNC has 7 losses instead of 11 losses last year they are a #1 or #2 seed.

Lets say we beat WVU and Oklahoma instead of losing to them, we would be sitting on the #2 or at worst #3 seed line currently. That puts us tied for 2nd in the conference at 12-6 with WVU, it would mean we would be 22-8 overall, and probably a top 10 RPI team right now.

So to say that losses "doesn't really matter" is patently absurd. Less losses will lead to a higher/better seed every time.

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

What? Is this serious? Of course the number of losses matter. If UNC has 7 losses instead of 11 losses last year they are a #1 or #2 seed.

Lets say we beat WVU and Oklahoma instead of losing to them, we would be sitting on the #2 or at worst #3 seed line currently. That puts us tied for 2nd in the conference at 12-6 with WVU, it would mean we would be 22-8 overall, and probably a top 10 RPI team right now.

So to say that losses "doesn't really matter" is patently absurd. Less losses will lead to a higher/better seed every time.

I meant people saying we can't get a 4 seed because of how many losses we have are wrong. Obviously numbers of losses matter if we were undefeated we'd be the overall number 1. I thought that was pretty easy to comprehend

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

I meant people saying we can't get a 4 seed because of how many losses we have are wrong. Obviously numbers of losses matter if we were undefeated we'd be the overall number 1. I thought that was pretty easy to comprehend

If this is what you meant, then you should have said this. You are the king of semantics, so I'm basically just holding you to your own standards. No biggie, we all say stupid stuff from time to time, just own it and move on.

 

[SplitIdentity]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

So unheard of that it happened last season. Oklahoma was 22-10 and a 3 seed.

**relatively

 

[ISU_Clone_28]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

What? Is this serious? Of course the number of losses matter. If UNC has 7 losses instead of 11 losses last year they are a #1 or #2 seed.

Lets say we beat WVU and Oklahoma instead of losing to them, we would be sitting on the #2 or at worst #3 seed line currently. That puts us tied for 2nd in the conference at 12-6 with WVU, it would mean we would be 22-8 overall, and probably a top 10 RPI team right now.

So to say that losses "doesn't really matter" is patently absurd. Less losses will lead to a higher/better seed every time.

I get what your saying and for the most part agree, but this may not be the best example. Yes 2 less losses would help for obvious reasons. What would carry more weight though, having 2 less losses or the fact that those two extra wins would have come against the #3 team at the time on the road and a #14 ranked WV team.

If those two extra wins were lets say UNI and Texas Tech, how much would that really affect our seed. I'd guess we would probably be still looking at more of a 3 seed or possibly 4 depending on the field ahead of us. Yea losses matter, but at what point does the quality of wins and who the losses came to outweigh just the # of losses.

 

[WastedTalent]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

If this is what you meant, then you should have said this. You are the king of semantics, so I'm basically just holding you to your own standards. No biggie, we all say stupid stuff from time to time, just own it and move on.

Everyone knew what he was talking about, except you.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

What? Is this serious? Of course the number of losses matter. If UNC has 7 losses instead of 11 losses last year they are a #1 or #2 seed.

Lets say we beat WVU and Oklahoma instead of losing to them, we would be sitting on the #2 or at worst #3 seed line currently. That puts us tied for 2nd in the conference at 12-6 with WVU, it would mean we would be 22-8 overall, and probably a top 10 RPI team right now.

So to say that losses "doesn't really matter" is patently absurd. Less losses will lead to a higher/better seed every time.

No one likes the "missing the point" on purpose guy. You're trying too hard.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

Everyone knew what he was talking about, except you.

No one likes the "missing the point" on purpose guy. You're trying too hard.

His post was losses don't matter. Maybe I was lost in context, as I don't read all the posts in these threads. I gotta job, I have a family, and I don't have hours to pour over all these posts. His was one of the last statements last night, so when I read it this morning it struck me as stupid as ****.

 

[NATEizKING]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

I'm not talking about ISU possibly bumping up to a 3 seed (although with 10 losses that would be relatively unheard of (yes I know the crazy year this has been)).

I was going more for Iowa dropping down from an expected 5 seed to a 7 seed with 10 losses.

I'd say both teams have a lot of potential to move up to the 3/4 line, but basement is likely the 6 seed, IMO.

North Carolina was a 4 seed with 11 losses. Numbers of losses doesn't really matter, look at who ISU has had to play this year

What? Is this serious? Of course the number of losses matter. If UNC has 7 losses instead of 11 losses last year they are a #1 or #2 seed.

Lets say we beat WVU and Oklahoma instead of losing to them, we would be sitting on the #2 or at worst #3 seed line currently. That puts us tied for 2nd in the conference at 12-6 with WVU, it would mean we would be 22-8 overall, and probably a top 10 RPI team right now.

So to say that losses "doesn't really matter" is patently absurd. Less losses will lead to a higher/better seed every time.

His post was losses don't matter. Maybe I was lost in context, as I don't read all the posts in these threads. I gotta job, I have a family, and I don't have hours to pour over all these posts. His was one of the last statements last night, so when I read it this morning it struck me as stupid as ****.

Catch up, only have to go back 15 posts from your post to get the context. Post 1894 is the top one.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...o-know-about-how-to-watch-the-ncaa-tournament

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

Catch up, only have to go back 15 posts from your post to get the context. Post 1894 is the top one.

Are you three like CyTwins little lackeys or something? CyTwins actually replied to that exact Splitidentity post you claim he was replying to, and he said this:

Iowa would lose to a terrible Minnesota or Illinois team. Palm has Iowa as a 6 seed now. Lose to one of those teams and you'd expect them to drop a line

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB definitely not even a #4 seed

Are you three like CyTwins little lackeys or something? CyTwins actually replied to that exact Splitidentity post you claim he was replying to, and he said this:

Your obsession with me is creepy