Yep, shameful that Iowa State lost to them. Im wondering why he said Wichita St is overrated..
Iowa State #14 in AP Poll (1/25)
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Yep, shameful that Iowa State lost to them. Im wondering why he said Wichita St is overrated..
How does KU, who got blown out by 20 to a .500 caliber team in OSU, only drop 1 ******* spot? ISU should be 10th or 11th... but whatever. Keep proving it on the court and stay hungry.
Beat KU!
Beat KU!
Also of note is Duke hanging toward the bottom of the poll at #24 with just one game this week @ Miami (tonight). Duke is one of three schools with a longer active streak of consecutive weeks in the AP Top 25 than Iowa State.
If Duke loses (and they are a 3.5 point underdog), they will likely drop out of the poll next week and ISU could move to #3 on that list behind Kansas and Arizona.
If Duke loses (and they are a 3.5 point underdog), they will likely drop out of the poll next week and ISU could move to #3 on that list behind Kansas and Arizona.
Yep, lose to them is really the only thing that hurts us RPI/KENPOM wise. Though I think the later is a bit of joke....
Why do we fall 5 spots (from 9 to 14) when we lose at top ranked Oklahoma and they stay number 1 when they lose at our place (to a lower ranked team).
I'm still trying to decide which loss I think is worse - Baylor or UNI. Baylor is clearly and far and away the better team, but it's at Hilton. UNI is much worse than Baylor, but it's a neutral site and it's also the only shot that UNI players had at either of the in-state "big boys" this year. Wes Washpun, an in-state guy, had the game of his career that night. So if I look at the "worse" loss as the least excusable one, it's a close call.
Well our wins over Chicago St and Coppin St actually hurt us more than the UNI loss in RPI.
I just wanted to be the first to say that by the time this week is over, we can have beaten four of the top five in this week's poll.
Kenpom's algorithm isn't a joke, and wasn't significantly affected by the UNI loss. It was majorly affected by our string of 4 or 5 games where we played horrible defense (from a points per possession standpoint). Our defensive efficiency rating dropped from ~70 to ~125 in that span, and in the last 3 games has recovered to #73. We need to get back to the Top 40 to have a legit chance at the Final 4.
Gosh, we could have wins over 4 of the top 5 teams by the end of the week. Ain't that somethin'. :realmad:
Voters are going to project what they think will happen, which in this case is the typical MSU righting the ship by March and rolling when it matters. So i do inderstand it to some extent. Based on resume they are vastly overrated. According to ESPNs reverse engineered RPI MSU is 30th. I think ISU at 14 is about right. So many opportunities for big wins no reason to worry about rankings at this point. That and the fact that polls don't really matter other than the pub. We have enough big games on ESPN that pub is not a problem.
I don't know how you can't put us in the top 5 if we win the next two. That would be almost idiotic.
Whatever that means, it isn't important right now. What is important is that we could potentially knock off 4 of the top 5 this week.
I'd take that Baylor loss back in a heartbeat. We'd be in the drivers seat for the conf. right now!
I agree, but more surprising is the two primary computer models, with supposedly no political bias, both have MSU higher. Look at Sagarin especially - MSU 8 ISU 19. Hard to believe this deep into the season.