They make it so easy...

[Gonzo]

It was not Rudock's fault Iowa underachiecved last year and that will become pretty evident this year IMO. When Iowa lost last year it was put on Rudok, I'm not sure who the scapegoat will be this year.

How many Iowa games did you watch last year in their entirety? Rudock threw for 146 yards and a pick against ISU, which had the 119th ranked pass D in the nation. He had a couple of good games. Other than that, he was bad. I watched every one of them, start to finish. Some of his stats may have looked decent, but when he has a WR running wide open down the middle of the field and instead chooses to throw to the RB running a 3 yard hitch, that's not good QB play. In the stat book it's a win. In reality, it's not. And he did ***** like this all year long.

 

[Gonzo]

You just keep backtracking all the time. You might be the dumbest Iowa fan on this site.

You forgot to call me a doosh.

 

[CyTwins]

How many Iowa games did you watch last year in their entirety? Rudock threw for 146 yards and a pick against ISU, which had the 119th ranked pass D in the nation. He had a couple of good games. Other than that, he was bad. I watched every one of them, start to finish. Some of his stats may have looked decent, but when he has a WR running wide open down the middle of the field and instead chooses to throw to the RB running a 3 yard hitch, that's not good QB play. In the stat book it's a win. In reality, it's not. And he did ***** like this all year long.

He was so bad but still had better numbers across the board than Beathard. Beathard obviously had a much smaller sample size but he looked pretty terrible in the two games he played the most. Who knows, he could be better but look worse if the OL is bad

 

[Gonzo]

He was so bad but still had better numbers across the board than Beathard. Beathard obviously had a much smaller sample size but he looked pretty terrible in the two games he played the most. Who knows, he could be better but look worse if the OL is bad

Nobody knows for sure. But throughout the season he wasn't getting the practice reps that Rudock got, wasn't able to build chemistry with first team skill guys, first team OL. That stuff matters. The reason Rudock was named the starter at the beginning was because he had better understanding of the offense, not because he necessarily was the better QB. And with KF, once you're in at QB, you pretty much have to drop a turd on the Ferentz Thanksgiving Day dinner table to be demoted.

 

[carvers4math]

Is Harbaugh still being coy about his starting quarterback? if he starts Rudock does he still stink or did he perform some miracle with him?

I am also curious whether Golson will still be a turnover machine at Florida State.

 

[inCyteful]

There's about 30 Hawk fans here worse than gonzo. He's one of the good ones.

I would concur. Brings some gravity to the debate at least.

I don't think QB will be Hoks problem this year, I think he will be avg or somewhat above.

I think their DEF will be mediocre at best and that his how KF has always put together a bowl season. Stay in the game and make it 50/50 chance at end. There will me many games that they aren't there at the end of.

 

[madguy30]

It took him 7?

1. They play in the West Division of the Big Ten.

It's hardly even an outside shot--play some decent ball and you're pretty much in unless someone really surprises.

 

[madguy30]

Preseason rankings for this year don't mean jack.

Well...there's a few ISU basketball fans that seem to disagree with that train of thought. Just sayin'.

 

[Frak]

I'm a simpleton. I just look at final rankings.

B1G - #1, #6, #15, #30, #34, #41, #49, #51, #59, #61, #70, #72, #81, #93

Big 12 - #4, #8, #21, #32, #43, #44, #53, #78, #95, #100

This looks pretty comparable to me. Sure ISU beat Iowa. But B1G bottom feeder Indiana won at SEC East champion Mizzou last year, that's hardly an argument that the B1G is better than the SEC. TCU was clearly the best team in the Big 12, no surprise they handled the B1G's #5 team. The closest matchup of conference powers was Baylor v. MSU and we know how that turned out. Bowl games also matter, they've always been used to knock the B1G when they've done poorly. Last year the B1G had more bowl wins against ranked opponents than any other conference and the Big 12 went 2-5.

I think the question of which conference is/was better is different than the question of which conference is/was harder to compete in. Obviously the Big 12 is the toughest conference to compete in. But if you look at the final rankings, both had about the same % of good/great teams (slight edge Big 12), the same % of decent/meh teams (slight edge B1G), and the same % of really sh*tty teams, though the Big 12's bottom was REALLY sh*tty.

man, you're sure getting a lot of mileage out of that MSU-Baylor game. Guessing you went through a bottle of Jurgens and a box of tissues during that fourth quarter.

 

[Frak]

Well...there's a few ISU basketball fans that seem to disagree with that train of thought. Just sayin'.

Supposed to be good and going to be good are two different things. One is based partially on media hype...which admittedly ISU got a ton of last year.

 

[Gonzo]

man, you're sure getting a lot of mileage out of that MSU-Baylor game. Guessing you went through a bottle of Jurgens and a box of tissues during that fourth quarter.

It was amazing.

 

[ajk4st8]

The big 10 can offer a tough schedule.... It also offers the weakest in cfb to some

#noroundrobin

 

[PerkyForHerky]

Is Harbaugh still being coy about his starting quarterback? if he starts Rudock does he still stink or did he perform some miracle with him?

I am also curious whether Golson will still be a turnover machine at Florida State.

The entire fanbase is waiting to see what happens with Rudock and how he does. It's going to be interesting for sure.

Can't say yet what the consensus will be - is Rudock truly a good B1G QB or not. Can only tell when we see him in action. I have been harsh on him but I'm rooting for him because I don't think it was just him that underperformed.

 

[CyTwins]

How many Iowa games did you watch last year in their entirety? Rudock threw for 146 yards and a pick against ISU, which had the 119th ranked pass D in the nation. He had a couple of good games. Other than that, he was bad. I watched every one of them, start to finish. Some of his stats may have looked decent, but when he has a WR running wide open down the middle of the field and instead chooses to throw to the RB running a 3 yard hitch, that's not good QB play. In the stat book it's a win. In reality, it's not. And he did ***** like this all year long.

Rudock: 7.06 yards per attempt
Beathard: 7.01 yards per attempt

 

[khawk4]

Rudock: 7.06 yards per attempt
Beathard: 7.01 yards per attempt

That argument has been ripped apart, and dissected, more than I would care to admit. And while its a decent stat, it doesnt tell the whole story. When it comes to situational passing, like on third downs, or important parts in the game, Rudock was reluctant to throw the ball down field. And im not talking 40 yard bombs, but more like taking a chance on a 15 yard TE post route, as opposed to throwing to a slow RB or FB in the flat. Granted, I think Rudock gets more grief with that than he probably deserves, but theres no denying that the lack of aggressiveness in certain situations killed the hawks offensively. Also, as far as situational, and this is just an observation, Jake was more aggressive between the 30's. But the second we got into the other teams 40 to 30 yard line, he shelled up and looked to dump downs constantly. What frustrated fans most of all, is that there were a lot of medium to deep routes open multiple times during multiple games, and Jake, without even looking, would dump to a TE or RB. THAT was the most frustrating.

 

[carvers4math]

Granted, I only watch one Hawk game a year, but could Rudock be reading a coverage on the deep route that he thinks isn't worth the chance and Beathard is just gonna sling it anyway, and the casual fan isn't seeing what the quarterback sees?

 

[CyTwins]

That argument has been ripped apart, and dissected, more than I would care to admit. And while its a decent stat, it doesnt tell the whole story. When it comes to situational passing, like on third downs, or important parts in the game, Rudock was reluctant to throw the ball down field. Granted, I think Rudock gets more grief with that than he probably deserves, but theres no denying that the lack of aggressiveness in certain situations killed the hawks offensively. Also, as far as situational, and this is just an observation, Jake was more aggressive between the 30's. But the second we got into the other teams 40 to 30 yard line, he shelled up and looked to dump downs constantly. What frustrated fans most of all, is that there were a lot of medium to deep routes open multiple times during multiple games, and Jake, without even looking, would dump to a TE or RB. THAT was the most frustrating.

I guess I just find it kind of funny Hawk fans criticize Rudock so much when every factual thing and statistic says he was better than Beathard last year but then again Hawkeye fans have this unique "eye test".

Beathard aired the ball out all over the field, Rudock checked down every time but yet Rudock had a higher yards per attempt. Doesn't add up to me.

 

[Gonzo]

I guess I just find it kind of funny Hawk fans criticize Rudock so much when every factual thing and statistic says he was better than Beathard last year but then again Hawkeye fans have this unique "eye test".

Beathard aired the ball out all over the field, Rudock checked down every time but yet Rudock had a higher yards per attempt. Doesn't add up to me.

Again, how many games did you watch in their entirety last year aside from ISU?

Don't you think it's weird that an overwhelming majority of Iowa fans and now, finally, the coaching staff agree that CJB should start, yet an ISU fan who watched maybe a few of their games thinks he knows more about who the better QB option is?

I'm starting to think you're Rudock's cousin or something.

 

[Gonzo]

Granted, I only watch one Hawk game a year, but could Rudock be reading a coverage on the deep route that he thinks isn't worth the chance and Beathard is just gonna sling it anyway, and the casual fan isn't seeing what the quarterback sees?

Maybe sometimes, but what I saw from an aerial view many times was guys running wide open 20 yards down field between the hashes with nobody close, and Rudock either not throwing it to them, or throwing it and missing badly.

 

[CyTwins]

Again, how many games did you watch in their entirety last year aside from ISU?

Don't you think it's weird that an overwhelming majority of Iowa fans and now, finally, the coaching staff agree that CJB should start, yet an ISU fan who watched maybe a few of their games thinks he knows more about who the better QB option is?

I'm starting to think you're Rudock's cousin or something.

Do I think it's odd an entire fan base blamed the starting QB for losses and the backup QB is the most popular man on campus? No, I think that's very common as Jerome Tiller was supposedly the next Vince Young for a couple years on here and in the stands