VIDEO: Seth Davis on Iowa State's coaching search

Why do people think this? The only people on the squad who have actually played for a team that TJ coached were Long and Niang, and that was only for 1 season. A few other guys KNOW him but have never really worked with him.

Because there are returning head coaches that know their teams less.
TJ coached 2, has known and recruited 3 others for years, signed our only recruit, and was on the staff for the recruitment of another. That is a significant portion of the roster. Only Mann has more familiarity.
 
My post was spewing with sarcasm.

I'll post this guessing you haven't seen this movie, but others will get it.

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You have a hiring situation where perception is going to be more important than reality, not exactly a strong selling point for Otz. Could he be a good head coach? No one could possibly know at this point, but this is not the time to hire an unproven, unknown commodity if you have any intentions on keeping the national credibility that ISU MBB has built up over the last few years.

Hiring Otz is the easy thing to say, but it's not the right thing to do.

What? The only time perception is important with a coaching hire is when you need to sell tickets. That's not the case here AT ALL. I don't think JP will care about the perception of this hire. Perception only lasts until you play that first game anyway.
 
There is literally not one piece of FACTUAL evidence out there that supports that TJ can win without Fred at the D1 level and it's been proven that Fred could win without TJ.

Amazing how recruiting is so much more important than coaching but yet McDermott's teams sucked and Romar's teams sucked.

Let's PLEASE get ourself a coach that has shown he can coach, and if we error, it will at least be on the side of caution instead of throwing out a Hail Mary when the program is at it's peak.
 
Read a piece that Pollard was actually going to sit down with the players and see what they wanted in a coach. Hope he does that.
 
Read a piece that Pollard was actually going to sit down with the players and see what they wanted in a coach. Hope he does that.

Players hated Tim and Larry at first. 9 times out of 10 the players will endorse the guy they know.
 
You've got it all figured out. Just like you did a month ago when your narrative was that the Fred/Bulls stuff was a media fabrication to get page views.

Derpity derp Greg McDoormatt derpity derp derp derpy derp the inmates run the asylum derp derpity double derp...local guy saves program derp derp derp white guy derp disciplinarian derp derp. Yay for TJ derp derp derp. Blaaaaa page views derp.
 
You've got it all figured out. Just like you did a month ago when your narrative was that the Fred/Bulls stuff was a media fabrication to get page views.

That's not what i said at all at the time, but if twisting what I said makes you feel better then sure.

At the time we had 3 columns on the front page based on no other sources than the continual hum by the national media that everyone wanted Fred Hoiberg. At the time that was nothing different than what we'd seen at any given point in the prior 3 years. It didnt really bring anything new to the the table at the time. Even you were calling for Hoiberg to still stay at that point. This was well before reports referencing sources in the know at ISU started coming out that there was something credible to this.

And i mean come on, with national media such as Rothstein\Goodman (especially rothstein) they always have sources inside the department and they are quite often mouthpieces for the departments\coaching staffs in exchange for information. Its how one guy can somehow have inside sources at dozens of universities. That's pretty undeniable.
 
That's not what i said at all at the time, but if twisting what I said makes you feel better then sure.

At the time we had 3 columns on the front page based on no other sources than the continual hum by the national media that everyone wanted Fred Hoiberg. At the time that was nothing different than what we'd seen at any given point in the prior 3 years. It didnt really bring anything new to the the table at the time. Even you were calling for Hoiberg to still stay at that point. This was well before reports referencing sources in the know at ISU started coming out that there was something credible to this.

And i mean come on, with national media such as Rothstein\Goodman (especially rothstein) they always have sources inside the department and they are quite often mouthpieces for the departments\coaching staffs in exchange for information. Its how one guy can somehow have inside sources at dozens of universities. That's pretty undeniable.


FYI - there is a LOT that goes on long before things get posted as commentary or sourced info. This year it was very well known behind the scenes that things were unfolding differently, all the way back to early April. Just because I or others can't outline those things at the time, doesn't mean they don't influence when/what is posted. There is a lot that gets shared and can't be posted - I would guess only about 2% gets converted into articles or commentary for various reasons.
 

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