Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

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So, interesting question. What is worse for a fanbase, a long drug out process like this? Or Gene's stealing away in the night?

This is worse and the timing is going to be so bad. The transfer game is all but done for this year and any coach coming in is going to be behind on the 2016 class.
 
I just got a text from a buddy saying "He Gone."

So.

He gone.

My friend knows jack ****.
well. this. sucks. and yes, it is going to cripple isu athletics. fred leaving is devastating because of all the interviews and stories from national media playing up his loyalty to isu, his "dream" job coaching in ames, and it was his "schtick" being the mayor. he leaves- i say we strip "the mayor" from him. if fred won't stay we won't be able to find someone to maintain a highly successful program here. isu will always be a stepping stone.
i hope he stays, but his silence has been deafening and i would now be shocked if he stays.
 
No matter when Fred leaves we'll have this kind of talk.

He's leaving to chase a dream. The move says more about his skill and ambition than it does about ISU.

ISU would've fired Fred if he flopped too. This was a business arrangement at its core.

**** the NBA, but best of luck if Fred jumps

Problem is he lead us to believe ISU is his dream job.
 
3TrueFans said:
I just can't wait to see how stupid the posts get if/when he announces he's leaving. That's the silver lining here for me.


well. this. sucks. and yes, it is going to cripple isu athletics. fred leaving is devastating because of all the interviews and stories from national media playing up his loyalty to isu, his "dream" job coaching in ames, and it was his "schtick" being the mayor. he leaves- i say we strip "the mayor" from him. if fred won't stay we won't be able to find someone to maintain a highly successful program here. isu will always be a stepping stone.
i hope he stays, but his silence has been deafening and i would now be shocked if he stays.
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To those ******** about this hurting recruiting: Fred leaving hurts recruiting, not the process of him leaving.

The process does too in the sense that if Fred does decide to stay there is that lingering feeling that at the end of any season from here on out he's a goner. It'll kill the transfer game the most. Opposing coaches will be able to tell the players "Why transfer to ISU? There is no guarantee that after you sit a year you will be playing for Fred".
 
Problem is he lead us to believe ISU is his dream job.

No. We chose to believe that. He led us to believe that he was very happy in Ames. No reason to doubt that. There were always bits and pieces of evidence that he was intrigued by the NBA.
 
The process does too in the sense that if Fred does decide to stay there is that lingering feeling that at the end of any season from here on out he's a goner. It'll kill the transfer game the most. Opposing coaches will be able to tell the players "Why transfer to ISU? There is no guarantee that after you sit a year you will be playing for Fred".

At this point, if he chooses to stay, he'll probably make a stronger statement than "I will be ISU's coach for the 2015-16 season"
 
I just got a text from a buddy saying "He Gone."

So.

He gone.

My friend knows jack ****.

well. this. sucks. and yes, it is going to cripple isu athletics. fred leaving is devastating because of all the interviews and stories from national media playing up his loyalty to isu, his "dream" job coaching in ames, and it was his "schtick" being the mayor. he leaves- i say we strip "the mayor" from him. if fred won't stay we won't be able to find someone to maintain a highly successful program here. isu will always be a stepping stone.
i hope he stays, but his silence has been deafening and i would now be shocked if he stays.

Brett44 wins the internet today.
 
Problem is he lead us to believe ISU is his dream job.

Did Fred ever actually use the words "ISU is my dream job"? I'm honestly asking because I don't know. There is a world of difference between saying that as compared to saying "coaching at ISU has been a dream of mine".
 
Closure, legacy, goodwill. I hope he does issue a goodbye of some sort. It stings but I don't think he is narcissistic enough to truly
grasp how much more he is to Iowa State than ISU's coach at this point. And maybe that's the lesson to be learned here. Nobody is more than the man they are including Fred.

Yeah, I don't care about any of that. I don't need to hear a bunch of meaningless ********. He knows what he's doing to ISU with this move. There is nothing he can say that will fix that and there's nothing that's going to make the move less harsh. He likes ISU, just not enough to stay. That's all fine, just save me the horse ****.
 
The process does too in the sense that if Fred does decide to stay there is that lingering feeling that at the end of any season from here on out he's a goner. It'll kill the transfer game the most. Opposing coaches will be able to tell the players "Why transfer to ISU? There is no guarantee that after you sit a year you will be playing for Fred".

I think we've past the " if Fred does decide to stay " station.
 
I don't understand at all how it isn't hurting recruitment. Every college basketball player has a goal to play in the NBA. Players come to ISU to play for Hoiberg and also get Hoiberg's connections to the NBA. If that is up in the air, I am going to think twice about coming to ISU unless I know Hoiberg will be there.

It either has hurt/is hurting recruiting or we suck at recruiting.
 
At this point, if he chooses to stay, he'll probably make a stronger statement than "I will be ISU's coach for the 2015-16 season"

Words won't matter though. Not after this. The last few days will be used against him on the recruiting trail for as long as he remains here, if he chooses to stay.
 
Problem is he lead us to believe ISU is his dream job.

This. You don't leave a dream job after 5 years to go onto the next job.

People wanted to think Fred was different than the typical coach. But he's not. He continually leveraged the AD for more money, he said he wanted to hang banners, he has flirted with the NBA on more than one occasion all while professing his love for Iowa State. And all of that is fine but let's not pretend Fred is different than his other coaching peers. I know we all want to believe differently but it's just not true.
 
Mark Charter should give away $100 to the person that can guess the correct number of pages this thread has as of midnight tonight.
 
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