Agree to disagree there. Don't think any school has been better. That's cool though.
Nick Noskowiak
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Agree to disagree there. Don't think any school has been better. That's cool though.
Prove it. If not, STFU.
I did the work on the Mich and UNC situations, they don't have "plenty of open spots", so why don't you do some leg work to back up your assertion in bold.
Prove there aren't or STFU. Simple supply and demand tells you at least a handful of schools would be interested and I gave a direct example of a recruit ranked lower than NN immediately getting interest from a top 5 team, a top 10 team, and a likely top 25 team within a few weeks.
Okay, pick 5 schools that you think should be interested and I'll do the leg work. If it's as simple as supply and demand then 5 schools should be enough of a sample size.
The risk is well known. Taking a leave from basketball for non-basketball reasons in combination with not being a sure thing in terms of how he translates to P5 ball. Why would you expect him to be a hot commodity two months ago? He is top-100, not top-30. A lot of disagreement on those later top-100 guys. Do you really get more excited for a guy in the 80's over 120 just because of ranking? He built his rankings two springs ago btw.
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Texas, Wisconsin would make sense, Maryland, Oklahoma State, and lets sayyyy Minnesota since that makes sense as well regionally and they reached out to him initially.
Obviously Michigan, Virginia, and UNC have spots and are looking for a guard and need backup options but that work is already done.
Here's my MN take that I already posted as a bonus:
For example you might look at MN and see they have one scholly to give and a hole at guard next year, but then you see they have been on top 100 4 star 2016 PG Quentin Goodin for quite awhile and multipe 4 star top 100 SG for 2016. If they try to scholly NN he is going to look and say, "you're going to recruit over me next year why would I go here?". Or if he does take that scholly those 2016 guys are saying, "why are you bringing this guy in you told me that was my spot next year" and you just wasted a few years worth of recruiting time and budget on those guys.
No you're just way off base. You were wrong about us going after him 3 weeks ago and instead of admitting your initial logic was wrong you are doubling down.
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I'd agree but people really, really don't like that opinion I guess.
And I guess I see some risk there but that doesn't seem like all that much as long as he says he's going to play this fall. Certainly less risk than an injury.
And I've provided an example of what kind of look a top 80 kids gets, and he's picking between 2 top 10 schools and another top 25 school. Is that kid just abnormally highly coveted?
What do you mean wrong about us going after him? I am in no way opposed to us signing him whatsoever. I'm just saying it was so incredibly easy to get him for a reason, and I was wondering that reason, and people are FREAKING out.
I wholeheartedly understand what you're saying, but there are an equal amount of schools out there that look like they don't need a G, and then you look and they have a hole at that spot the next year or two years down the road.
Or their best recruit at that G spot is an unranked 3 star, and NN would be a massive upgrade. And with 1.4 transfers per team or something like that, almost everyone has open scholarhips.
I just think that over 50 or 60 teams, just a couple handfuls would have to be willing or able to make room if he's a top 80 guy. Is that so ridiculous? I would guess the same for the other kid deciding between UNC, Mich, and Virginia if those schools passed on him.
Because Williams is a better prospect (different than player). A lot easier to speculate late in recruiting on a guy that is long and athletic and played the entire year, and doesn't have the question marks.
Why do you hate NN? Why don't you trust Fred that NN is good!?!? Trust Fred!
I think you and I are somewhat on the same page. I guess I wouldn't think there really is that much risk in not playing basketball for a bit but that makes as much sense as anything.
Hines will probably write an article answering all this in like 2 days and it will all make sense.
Gonna go pound a few beers and finish off Daredevil on netflix I think though.
Good talk, guys.
Why do you hate NN? Why don't you trust Fred that NN is good!?!? Trust Fred!
I think you and I are somewhat on the same page. I guess I wouldn't think there really is that much risk in not playing basketball for a bit but that makes as much sense as anything.
Hines will probably write an article answering all this in like 2 days and it will all make sense.
Gonna go pound a few beers and finish off Daredevil on netflix I think though.
Good talk, guys.
about time...
Texas:
PG's Felix (SR), Yancy (JR), 2 offers to 5 star 2016 PG's
SG's Holland (SR), 2 4 star FR signed for 2015
Wisky:
PG: Koenig (JR)
SG: Multiple upper classmen, Brent Prizil 4 star FR
OSU:
PG newberry (SR), Stevie Clark (JR), 4 star #29 FR Juwan Evans, 3 top 100 2016 offers out
SG: Phil Forte (SR), Melvin Frazier 4 star FR, 3 top 100 2016 offers our including Terrance Ferguson
Maryland:
PG: signed JUCO JR Jaylen Brantley, 2016 top 100 pg anthony cowan signed
SG: 4 star top 100's melo trimble and Dion Wiley (SO's), Malik Ellison 3 star signed (FR), 3 top 100 2016 offers out
MN I already covered pretty much, they would really be the only team out of these 5 that I could see would be as desperate for a guard as we are and make geographical sense and have any prior relationship with NN. Wisky would seem to make sense in a vacuum but the Bo Ryan factor makes this one unrealistic and they have more need at forward. Bo Ryan still RS's kids ffs.
Texas, OSU and Maryland make no sense and they don't really have any need at PG or SG. And once again that's not to mention that NN could just flat out not want to go to any of these places and wants to come to ISU (and possibly has all along) which is just as logical as anything you've put out there tonight. You're discounting of mutual interest is really where you went wrong here imo.
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And I didn't even get in to the importance of banking scholarships, 5th years, and not immediately eligible transfers. If that doesn't answer the question of why every school in the nation isn't beating down the door for NN then there's nothing left to do but hope that Rhoadhoused wakes up sober tomorrow and stays that way.
We can knock on McDermott all we want but he was able to develop some nice post players.