Coach Matt A to St. Johns

[RubyClone]

Re: Coach Matt A

No his wife is from Davenport and even with her visiting home a lot I do think she would go where ever his job would happen to take him.

I was suggesting more the idea that if she was from NYC as well, there's even more reason to head back...

 

[nfrine]

Re: Coach Matt A

Which would you rather be...A Cyclone or a Johnnie? I think he stays. :smile:

 

[Cydkar]

Re: Coach Matt A

Which would you rather be...A Cyclone or a Johnnie? I think he stays. :smile:

Doesn't matter what I'd rather be.

 

[isu81]

Re: Coach Matt A

I'm asking here because I really have no idea, but does the NY media really care enough about college sports to really rip anybody? NY is a pro sports town and typically anything related to college sports is waaaay in the back of the pecking order as far as give a damn in those situations.

As to your first point, there were a TON of people that said the same thing about Fred 5 years ago. Time will tell whether Mullin is any good as a coach but an NBA hof'er is going to carry a lot of clout, and NYC is not the worst place to have clout. If Matt A. feels it's worth a shot to go home and hitch his wagon to somebody, Mullin is probably the best candidate he's going to find.

Agree with this. Having lived in Chicago for much of my adulthood, college sports got NO press or pressure, even with it being the center of B10 country. All went to the professional teams. In NYC, multiply that by two because there are two teams in each of the major sports and even less college sports presence. Iowa State gets much more exposure and pressure in Iowa than the NY media would give to St. John's.

 

[Go2Guy]

Re: Coach Matt A

It would be nice to have a season where we return the same staff; I don't think Fred's had that - ever, correct?

 

[Luth4Cy]

Re: Coach Matt A

I hope he does what's right for him. From an Iowa State perspective I don't really see this as causing any huge changes within the program. Fred is good enough as a coach and recruiter assistants are easier to replace.

 

[Triggermv]

Re: Coach Matt A

I want Matt to stay, but I would be fully understanding if he left for his dream opportunity with his alma mater. It is obvious from hearing him talk on the CF podcasts that he still greatly cares for St. Johns basketball and follows them very closely. Just based on all the interviews I've heard from him over the years (no inside info), coaching at St. Johns has really been the only scenario in my mind where I've imagined him leaving CFH. We'll see though. With that said, I consider leaving to go with Mullin as the definitely riskier option right now, so he'll also have a risk/reward comparison to factor in as well. If he makes the move and Mullin succeeds, it probably would be a great move for him. If he makes the move and Mullin fails, he may regret his decision.

 

[Thomasrickj]

Re: Coach Matt A

Agree with this. Having lived in Chicago for much of my adulthood, college sports got NO press or pressure, even with it being the center of B10 country. All went to the professional teams. In NYC, multiply that by two because there are two teams in each of the major sports and even less college sports presence. Iowa State gets much more exposure and pressure in Iowa than the NY media would give to St. John's.

I agree as well. Having lived in DC for most of my life, Georgetown is not covered a whole lot, even back when they were better ten years ago. College sports in a bigger cities is usually not nearly as important. John Thompson has had some bad years recently and the media doesn't eat him up.

I think people are assuming St John's is as big as it was in their glory years. It's not that way anymore and hasn't been for quite some time.

 

[CTTB78]

Re: Coach Matt A

I love the guy ....

That's what I'll say if he lands Diallo for Iowa State.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Coach Matt A

Maybe he waits till signing day.

 

[cyclones12321]

Re: Coach Matt A

It seems that the possible opportunity for Coach Matt A to go to St. John's deserves its own thread.

Of course, it would be attractive to him to go back to New York, but I don't think he will go. The situation here with Coach Hoiberg is too special. And the situation at St. John's is too risky. Chris Mullin may be a local hero, but I can't imagine that he is on a par with Fred Hoiberg in terms of disposition, coaching approach, NBA GM office experience, and job security. Going to St. John's would be a huge risk for Coach Matt. Hoiberg can have an off year here and still be loved. The New York media would eat up any sign of weakness or failure by Mullin. Coach Matt has to know that if he goes to St. John's, there is a significant chance that he will be gone again soon. I think he may have a better situation with the coach who follows Mullin because that hire won't be mired with all the nostalgia of hiring Mullin. And hanging around Hoiberg is probably a better track to an NBA front office if that is what he wants.

Dont go on vacation c will!!!!

 

[Nycclone]

Re: Coach Matt A

No one really cares about St. John's unless they are in queens or went to the school. If you go to a bar, no guarantee the game will even be on unless someone asked for it. Not that much press.

They did get some attention lavins first year but the next year they sucked and the attention died off fast.

 

[Cycsk]

Re: Coach Matt A

Just heard Reggie Miller on Dan Patrick talking about how Chris Mullin was the guy in the back of the bus breaking down the game even before they looked at the film. Listed him along with Steve Kerr, Phil Jackson, Mark Jackson, and Fred Hoiberg as players who are built like coaches.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Coach Matt A

If Matt has said he is not going anywhere, I would not worry. If he is silent, he may go.

 

[deadeyededric]

Re: Coach Matt A

Which would you rather be...A Cyclone or a Johnnie? I think he stays. :smile:

You do realize that not everyone grew up a Cyclone fan right? My god some people on this board are delusional!

 

[jkclone]

Re: Coach Matt A

I really don't know anything about this, so I could be way off base. I know he loves St. Johns, but when he goes there to coach wouldn't he want to be the head coach as well. I say this because if he wants to be a head coach as well I don't see it necessarily as a good move. St. Johns looks like it is going to try the method that we went through. Matt has already proven he can do that. Would trying it again really help him. I can only see it hurting him. I think that for him to go somewhere and get more experience he needs to go somewhere that is maybe more defensive oriented or that is going through a more traditional process.

That said I don't really know his aspirations. The draw of coaching at all at St. Johns could be to much. I don't know, but I do know I'm glad we have him right now.

 

[mattyice]

Re: Coach Matt A

Needs it's own thread just like Hoiberg leaving needs it's own thread.

Very true.

And when did Matt become the grand puba? I'm appreciative of all he's done, but my lord people....we will be just fine, and we will get another great recruiter.

 

[twocoach]

Re: Coach Matt A

I'm asking here because I really have no idea, but does the NY media really care enough about college sports to really rip anybody? NY is a pro sports town and typically anything related to college sports is waaaay in the back of the pecking order as far as give a damn in those situations. As to your first point, there were a TON of people that said the same thing about Fred 5 years ago. Time will tell whether Mullin is any good as a coach but an NBA hof'er is going to carry a lot of clout, and NYC is not the worst place to have clout. If Matt A. feels it's worth a shot to go home and hitch his wagon to somebody, Mullin is probably the best candidate he's going to find.

Agreed. NYC isn't lighting up the head coach of St John's and Mullin will likely get a longer leash being a local legend.

 

[twocoach]

Re: Coach Matt A

Very true. And when did Matt become the grand puba? I'm appreciative of all he's done, but my lord people....we will be just fine, and we will get another great recruiter.

The only reason people care about this right now is because it might impact Cheick Diallo coming to ISU. If they were not in on Diallo then people would feel completely different about it.

 

[mattyice]

Re: Coach Matt A

The only reason people care about this right now is because it might impact Cheick Diallo coming to ISU. If they were not in on Diallo then people would feel completely different about it.

Which is crazy....if he comes it's because of the program and Fred