Don't blame them. Half of the Big 12 (ISU, WVU, KU, K-State, and OSU) would ditch the conference tomorrow if a better offer came along (assuming it could invalidate the GoR).
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Don't blame them. Half of the Big 12 (ISU, WVU, KU, K-State, and OSU) would ditch the conference tomorrow if a better offer came along (assuming it could invalidate the GoR).
I think we should put a disclaimer on the top of the board. No Power 5 Team is going to leave for the Big 12. Either Grant of rights or in being in the SEC is why.
Then put the 5+ schools that would be available and why.
BYU
UCONN
Cincy
Memphis
UNLV
UCF
SF
SDSU
again,
my vote would be for UNLV and UCF.
Get me a good vacation each year since we can't make a bowl game.
Then put the 5+ schools that would be available and why.
BYU
UCONN
Cincy
Memphis
UNLV
UCF
SF
SDSU
again,
my vote would be for UNLV and UCF.
Get me a good vacation each year since we can't make a bowl game.
UNLV and SDSU would be terrible ideas. You're suggesting a conference that goes coast-to-coast. The travel alone would destroy the lesser financially stable schools in the conference. Another reason why I hate the idea of BYU. Except for BYU (which I don't want for other reasons), I don't think you can go further west than Albuquerque (New Mexico) or Ft. Collins (Colorado State) because travel becomes outrageous, and even those two schools are a bad idea logistically.
By bringing in West Virginia, we've made our bed geographically - if we're going to expand, it has to be east.
I would like to see Cincinnatti and Memphis join the Big 12. As noted earlier they are good locations and good road trips. I would see them as joining the North division with ISU when the Big 12 instigates a championship game.
I dont understand this. Do you like having our team at a disadvantage every week? I would kill to have a few easier teams on the schedule every year. Round robin is suicide for us.
For those talking about balance, BYU would quickly turn into quite the program if they were in a major conference assuming they don't have a horrible coaching hire. If not for the religious thing the Pac would have likely wanted to add them clear back when they added Arizona and Arizona State. It's a huge, passionate, national fan base situated in a part of the country that has hardly any other major football programs or NFL teams. They have more upside as a long term member of a major conference than Nebraska.
I'd actually like pairing Cincy with BYU because in spite of some recent success I don't think Cincy is set up as well to be a brutal matchup for ISU long term, same could have been said of Louisville.
I'd actually like pairing Cincy with BYU because in spite of some recent success I don't think Cincy is set up as well to be a brutal matchup for ISU long term, same could have been said of Louisville.
It would appear that Notre Dame, second SEC team, BYU and the entire Big 12 are ineligible for the college football playoff until at least 2016. Unless the committee was just talking out of their rear end and throwing crap against the wall.
Maybe this has been said on here, but I don't see why we can't just host our own championship game as it is? Let Baylor and TCU player each other, in reference to this current scenario, that way you have to 'prove it' if you will. Gives our best two teams the chance to make it to the playoffs.
This to me was more about money. You have 4 teams from completely distinct districts of the country. They just want to increase revenue.
This to me was more about money. You have 4 teams from completely distinct districts of the country. They just want to increase revenue.
Rematches happen in 12 and 14 team leagues. There's zero reason we couldn't have a top two title game outside of the rule that a title game requires 12 teams. If anything the Big 12's title game would be way more fair than other conferences because they got to the top 2 by playing equal schedules, not Wisconsin walking through the worst division in college football to be violated by OSU from the better division. Nobody thinks Wisc is the B10 runnerup, everyone knows a rematch of 1v2 Baylor/TCU would have ended with the 1 and 2 best B12 teams.
HoopsTournament
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Rules state that to have a championship game, you need to have divisions and the two teams that play need to be the division winners. To do so you need 12 teams. So all other proposals would need a rule change.
No. The only rule is there aren't any. They will put whatever teams in that will produce the most money unless forced otherwise. (Undefeated TCU wins conference championship game against ranked opponent and everyone else in other conferences has at least 2 losses)
HoopsTournament
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You can, but you can't have a championship game.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...be-ahead-conference-championships-playoff-era
The ACC and Big 12 co-submitted a proposal to the NCAA in March to change this rule. At the time, it was considered non-controversial and would be granted. I don't believe the NCAA has acted on it yet.
If the Big 12 makes a change, it should only be to keep the round-robin, make the final weekend an open date, and put the top two teams in a rematch in Dallas for a championship game.
Then when our team still gets screwed for a Big Ten team with a worse resume, we force the committee to be more balanced or more transparent in metrics like SOS and this garbage top 60 record that materialized out of nowhere.
Scenario that would stink is when a team is a convincing 9-0 and can't be called champion because they lose a rematch to a 6-3 or 7-2 team they already beat.