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Here's my only problem.... defensively we are not going to be anywhere near competitive enough next year to win many games.

So no matter how good we think the offense "could" be, assuming our OL somehow improves drastically, it probably won't be enough to equate to wins with how bad our defense will be.

You could possibly promote Mangino to head coach and hire a new OC and DC, as long as they aren't Tommy Mangino and Shane Burnham. I want some new blood on the sidelines.


I was on the sidelines today and at ground level we were boys among men, they handled us on both sides. Their lines were big and athletic. Also, their D-backs had to have 2-4 inches over our D-backs from a size standpoint.

From my view this was ugly!!!
 
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I was on the sidelines today and at ground level we were boys among men, they handled us on both sides. Their lines were big and athletic. Also, their D-backs had to have 2-4 inches over our D-backs from a size standpoint.

From my view this was ugly!!!

Some of us have forgotten that OU was in the top 5 in the country at one point in time, and are just a couple plays from being in the national championship talk. The only way ISU was going to be in this game was by Sam and the offense having a great game and the defense at least showing up. Neither happened.
 
Some of us have forgotten that OU was in the top 5 in the country at one point in time, and are just a couple plays from being in the national championship talk. The only way ISU was going to be in this game was by Sam and the offense having a great game and the defense at least showing up. Neither happened.

It's been said a million times... hardly anyone truly believed we could win the game today, but I think most of us figured we'd at least show up and put up a fight and try to compete instead of lay down and look totally inept and no better than a decent high school team.
 
Who is interested in being the ISU head coach that you are going to hire after you fire the coach? Our history of football success is so deep I am sure that will attract a lot of quality coaches that want to continue that tradition. If we do somehow attract a coach that can turn our program around he will be gone in 3 years to someplace that he can maintain that success over the years. Right now I think we have a strong assistant coaching staff that will be hard to replace at ISU if we show them the door.
 
Who is interested in being the ISU head coach that you are going to hire after you fire the coach? Our history of football success is so deep I am sure that will attract a lot of quality coaches that want to continue that tradition. If we do somehow attract a coach that can turn our program around he will be gone in 3 years to someplace that he can maintain that success over the years. Right now I think we have a strong assistant coaching staff that will be hard to replace at ISU if we show them the door.

We have what some may consider a strong OC. And his son.
We have an over the hill DC. And his son.

Who do we hire as HC if we fire CPR? I don't know. Better to hire an unproven coach than a proven failure.
 
We have what some may consider a strong OC. And his son.
We have an over the hill DC. And his son.

Who do we hire as HC if we fire CPR? I don't know. Better to hire an unproven coach than a proven failure.

Not sure who we can hire at this point, but it does seem likely that we'll probably hire their son as well whoever it is.
 
If we play our cards right, Kevin Sumlin might be looking for a job after next year.

Expectations are high in Aggieville and he isn't having much success in the SEC.

He has had some off the field issues, but I'm willing to take them if he can turn this program around

No way this is a serious post. A guy that keeps getting mentioned for NFL jobs is not only going to get fired from A&M, but perhaps come to Iowa State?
 
Although I've been disenchanted with Rhoads I've been one to say he shouldn't be fired because we couldn't get anyone better. I don't feel that way anymore.

There is someone on the staff now who has an impressive resume as a head coach. He deserves another chance at a hc job. He also is one of the few i see on the sideline showing any fire or disdain for poor performance.

His name is Mark mangino and he should be named interim hc immediately.
 
Funny, when Chizik was falling apart I was really concerned and bummed.

Rhoads... having a hard time caring at the moment... not sure why... some theories:

-I expected this year to be rough, and it is... granted, winning KSU/UT would have made this feel SO MUCH BETTER, never mind if we didn't **** it down our leg against NDSU to be one from a bowl, but oh well

-maybe I'm giving Rhoads a pass, but our recruiting was putrid for the two classes that are now juniors and seniors--directly correlated when we did not know what conference we were going to be in. Now that the Big 12 is stable, recruiting has picked up (the underclassmen on this team look better than the upperclassmen), so I would hope things trend upwards

-Chizik was always kind of a ****, but Rhoads seems a solid guy who cares about the central Iowa community... part of me wants to see that "ideal fit" somehow work out

-he did bank a lot of goodwill with those initial bowl games and some really exciting play and upsets over the years, though the maddening lack of consistency is getting to all of us

-I figure Wally "retires" after this season and we try some new blood and, given Mangino's track record and the new guy, I'm willing to give them at least one more shot with a senior Richardson and some development of the existing roster...

-I know this is a cliche and an excuse, but they HAVE been ****ed by the refs and the injury bug a lot over the past few years, and I recognize that

-the real reason, probably--I'm in full-on basketball mode now. I watched the football game, but I'm just not that into it. It was *really* hard when McDermott was running off Wesley Johnson and being terrible at coaching basketball AND Chizik was going 5-19 at the same time, but as long as Hoiberg is around, somehow, someway, I feel everything is going to be alright

*swoons, cuddles with his Fred pillow*
 
I don't remember anyone calling for Chizik's head. In fact, we were all upset he left at the time.

I might not have called for his firing, but it didn't bother me when he left. I thought it was a puzzling hire anyway, but I kept my mouth shut because I assumed those "in the know" knew better than I did.
 
Although I've been disenchanted with Rhoads I've been one to say he shouldn't be fired because we couldn't get anyone better. I don't feel that way anymore.

There is someone on the staff now who has an impressive resume as a head coach. He deserves another chance at a hc job. He also is one of the few i see on the sideline showing any fire or disdain for poor performance.

His name is Mark mangino and he should be named interim hc immediately.

Mangino shouldn't be our OC let alone our head coach.

I don't know why everyone is so upset. We are exactly who most thought we would be. We have beat then team we should, picked up our token win against a mediocre Iowa team and are losing to good teams. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Give him at least one more year. Maybe two. And if it doesn't work out you clean house. I sense it won't work out but at this point I don't see much harm in trying it a bit longer.

I'm just happy to see so many fans have stopped basing their opinions of the program based on the Iowa game. I've been beating this drum for 10+ years and I'm glad so many others have come around. Iowa should NOT be our measuring stick.
 
He's competing against the Big 12 schools, and his three losses this year are against three top 12 teams....
They lost to Alabama by 59 earlier this year. 2 years ago they beat Alabama. Manziel made that team good, not Sumlin.
 
Mangino shouldn't be our OC let alone our head coach.

I don't know why everyone is so upset. We are exactly who most thought we would be. We have beat then team we should, picked up our token win against a mediocre Iowa team and are losing to good teams. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Give him at least one more year. Maybe two. And if it doesn't work out you clean house. I sense it won't work out but at this point I don't see much harm in trying it a bit longer.

I'm just happy to see so many fans have stopped basing their opinions of the program based on the Iowa game. I've been beating this drum for 10+ years and I'm glad so many others have come around. Iowa should NOT be our measuring stick.
Stopped reading after these two lines. Jesus.
 
Mangino shouldn't be our OC let alone our head coach.

I don't know why everyone is so upset. We are exactly who most thought we would be. We have beat then team we should, picked up our token win against a mediocre Iowa team and are losing to good teams. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Give him at least one more year. Maybe two. And if it doesn't work out you clean house. I sense it won't work out but at this point I don't see much harm in trying it a bit longer.

I'm just happy to see so many fans have stopped basing their opinions of the program based on the Iowa game. I've been beating this drum for 10+ years and I'm glad so many others have come around. Iowa should NOT be our measuring stick.

You're a troll but I want the logic behind this.
 
I have been on the FIRE CPR bandwagon since last year. But after thinking about it for a while and watching the pieces we have for next year, I say we don't fire him till end of next year. I think next year is going to be a special season , CPR is going to be hailed the greatest coach ever (kidding a 6-7 win season) . But at that point Pollard has to make a very important decision and fire CPR. Here is why, because after that special season (reaching bowl game and losing..LOL) CPR is going to go back to winning 2-3 games for the next few year. This guy cannot recruit or develop. Mangino 2016.
 

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