Derrick Willies leaving Iowa
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Because despite that record they aren't very good and they lose a lot of talent for next year. They are losing hope, have an OC they hate and have played just 3 teams in the 40-60 range and lost 2 of them and nobody in the top 40. The evidence is clear that they too are in the 40-60 range same as Iowa State. Difference is with our youth and Mangino we have a little hope. Sure the record is better and it would be more fun to be 5-2 but I get why they are frustrated.
I don't think either of them suck, they just aren't great. After going through the JC experience, I reserve the term suck for the ones that really deserve it.
Iowa doesn't win 8 games last year if Rudock sucks. The problem is he's not capable of beating teams by himself and needs the running game to help him out.
Where I agree with Gonzo is if Iowa needs to beat a team throwing the ball, I'd rather have CJ in the game
they actually don't lose that much. They lose some key players for sure, but they return a ton of starters on both sides of the ball.
Kyle Orton has a better QB rating than Andrew Luck. Who would you rather have as your starting QB?
JR dug us into a major hole against Pitt, CJB dug us out and got us the win. CJB got us a conference win on the road in his first start ever, JR played like absolute crap on the road in another conference game against another mediocre team. Not saying that stat doesn't matter, but if that's what you're banking on, you're not really looking at the game and what's going on.
Rudock had a perfectly thrown deep ball picked off because Powell handed it to the other team. CJB handed a GOLDEN chance (i.e. Sam Richardson vs Kansas) to prove he was easily the best option and messed it up. Simple as that
His completion % and passer ratings are better because he never throws the ball downfield. So he checks down and completes more 3-yard passes on 3rd and 7. Awesome.
Jared Barnett was more accurate than his counterpart Steele Jantz, while Jantz had a stronger arm and could make more spectacular plays. Still didn't make either one of them a good or accurate quarterback.
He played better against Pitt and Purdue than JR played in 4 of his 6 starts this season. Again, it makes no difference, KF is starting JR no matter what.
I did say he had issues right? CJ has those same passes, the difference is he completes less of them. So again, Jake is more accurate.
Beathard throws the ball downfield but only has one TD all season and played a full game against Purdue
Let's look at CJB vs Purdue and what he did. What 4 games was Rudock worse in than that performance?
I thought someone said you lose 9 offensive starters....but now that I type that I remember that it was you have 9 offensive upperclassman. My bad. Honest question as you seem to make level headed assessments, with the losses and no real hope at skill positions does Iowa have a better record next year? Or considering this year's schedule do they have a better team?
No that's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is CJB hasn't proven he's better. His "solid" game against Purdue would be worse statistically than every game JR has played this season. KF obviously likes JR better so if CJB wants to play he has to prove it, he hasn't done that.
ISU, Ball St., Pitt, Maryland.
You'll look at the Ball St. stats and think JR's performance there was better. But it was against Ball St., at home, and JR was able to lead us to 3 points in the first 55 minutes of that game.
ISU, obviously, our offense was pathetic, as was Rudock as his stats show. You'll appreciate that.
Pitt, obviously, CJB's numbers in that game were clearly better.
Maryland, again, JR went one stretch completing something like 7 out of 24 and played like absolute crap. Stats might show his numbers were better, but that's because we were coming from way behind. Fact is we lost to them, and we won against Purdue. CJB's numbers would have been bigger if we weren't milking clock late in the game.
Maryland > Purdue. If CJB was "milking the clock late" how did he throw 20 incompletions against PURDUE? Oh yeah, he wasn't good that game.
I've said the whole time I think he is better than JR but if you can only put up 24 pts against Purdue and put up those numbers I don't get how you can say that was a "solid" performance. He was GIFTED an opportunity against a terrible team and didn't capitalize. Combine that with a stubborn coach that doesn't like him and he really kind of screwed himself
no idea, it really depends on the quarterback. You're going a bit overboard with the no hope at the skill positions comment but the skill position talent doesn't mean much if the quarterback play is this inconsistent. I think they'll have a better defense but they'll need one of those quarterbacks to improve otherwise it'll be much like this year.
Maryland's pass D is #81, Purdue's is #93. Better? Sure.
In the fourth quarter against Purdue our O ran 25 plays, 20 of which were runs. That's called milking the clock because he'd led us to a two possession lead. If he were coming back from a three possession deficit in the 4th, as Rudock was against Maryland, I'm willing to bet his passing numbers would have been more inflated. And you'd look at those stats and automatically assume he played better.