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dmthornt

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I find it quite interesting everyone wanting PR's head lack of performance. Seems like everyone thinks McCarney walked on water, yet his overall record was only 56 W - 85 L and even worse in the Big 12. In fact the only coach to have a winning record at Iowa State since 1920 was Earle Bruce at 36 W - 32 L.

So I would conclude changing coaches, while it might seem like a good idea, won't solve the win loss problem. It's something much much deeper. Maybe money, maybe ethics? I don't know, but there seems to be a pattern of success and lack of success, not just with ISU, but many schools. We need to find the answer to that and correct it before we go looking for a new coach.
 
We need more $$$ directed at FB to overcome our inconsistencies

and yes, Earle Bruce the only coach to leave ISU with a winning record. This has been mentioned 1000x over the years
 
Since beating Baylor in 2012, ISU is 5-17. We have been with CPR only players now for most of that.
 
I don't know what qualified Rhoads' to be hired as our head coach, because his resume isn't very impressive, but he has done a pretty decent job thus far. I think he has two great coordinators right now and the future looks pretty decent. Keep in mind that we pretty much need to keep our staff in tact for about 5 years before any chance of a true break out year. That almost never happens, so I'm going to continue to believe we won't be very good until it does.
 
Luth4Cy said:
I can't tell if you think that's all we have to do to fix the problem or if you are trying to be funny.
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yes, hiring a good coach would fix the problem

see: KSU


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awd4cy said:
Sure would have been interesting what would have happened had Pollard offered Jim Harbaugh the job.
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I've always wondered about that. He would have had four years in the old Big 12 to get things going which wouldn't have hurt. Surely he would have bolted after a couple bowl seasons, but he would have won here.
 
If we kept everything heading in the right direction, kept Mangino and Wally for a decade (yes, a decade) we could realistically expect to compete for a conference title 1 out of those 10 years. I'd say 8 of those years we could expect a bowl game, and a high bowl game 3 or 4 times. Something like

3-9
6-6
8-4
6-6
9-3
11-1
6-6
9-3
5-7
6-6

As soon as you have a major staff shake up at a place like Iowa State: re-start at year 1
 
twojman said:
Since beating Baylor in 2012, ISU is 5-17. We have been with CPR only players now for most of that.
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Many can't seem to grasp that. They just want to point to his overall record here at ISU. Rhoads is very close to that 5-19 record that we like to rip Chizik for. He is doing that after what we thought was a program in much better shape coming out of the 2011 and 2012 seasons. Chizik took over the disaster after 2006.
 
Luth4Cy said:
I've always wondered about that. He would have had four years in the old Big 12 to get things going which wouldn't have hurt. Surely he would have bolted after a couple bowl seasons, but he would have won here.
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Had he bolted we still might have had some pretty good football seasons with hopefully a predecessor like Coach Shaw.
 
dualthreat said:
If we kept everything heading in the right direction, kept Mangino and Wally for a decade (yes, a decade) we could realistically expect to compete for a conference title 1 out of those 10 years. I'd say 8 of those years we could expect a bowl game, and a high bowl game 3 or 4 times. Something like

3-9
6-6
8-4
6-6
9-3
11-1
6-6
9-3
5-7
6-6

As soon as you have a major staff shake up at a place like Iowa State: re-start at year 1
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You need more proof for that, but it could be a nice idea except for 2 things:
1. If a head coach is getting it done, it's in year 5 or sooner.
2. Ten years from now, Wally is around 82. I don't think we should count on him staying that long.
 
CycloneErik said:
You need more proof for that, but it could be a nice idea except for 2 things:
1. If a head coach is getting it done, it's in year 5 or sooner.
2. Ten years from now, Wally is around 82. I don't think we should count on him staying that long.
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Paul Rhoads has a better first 5 year win % than Frank Beamer did at Virginia Tech
 
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