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Mizzou Hires Kim Anderson

If I understood the previous thread correctly, this is a move to placate the big pro-football donors, and sending a tacet statement that Mizzou intends to be a FB school???
 
They might think it's a "meh" hire, but this really may be a very good hire, in retrospect. Guy who seems to really be a pretty good coach with experience as an assistant at the school and a head coach elsewhere? Sign me up.
 
jbhtexas said:
If I understood the previous thread correctly, this is a move to placate the big pro-football donors, and sending a tacet statement that Mizzou intends to be a FB school???
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If that's true that has to be about the dumbest damn thing I have ever heard. Somebody should go tell Florida to fire Billy Donovan because apparently you can't try to succeed at both sports.
 
MNCyGuy said:
If that's true that has to be about the dumbest damn thing I have ever heard. Somebody should go tell Florida to fire Billy Donovan because apparently you can't try to succeed at both sports.
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Psst. ... It's Missouri. You can major in that.

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MNCyGuy said:
If that's true that has to be about the dumbest damn thing I have ever heard. Somebody should go tell Florida to fire Billy Donovan because apparently you can't try to succeed at both sports.
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I hear what you are saying, but...

UF 2012-2013 Grand Total Revenue: $129,505,644
MU 2012-2013 Grand Total Revenue: $71,149,002

UF seems a bit better equipped to be a "two-sport" school...

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx
 
Not a sexy hire, but Missouri has tried that a time or two or three and lost. I think it's a real solid hire and exactly what they need right now.
 
jbhtexas said:
I hear what you are saying, but...

UF 2012-2013 Grand Total Revenue: $129,505,644
MU 2012-2013 Grand Total Revenue: $71,149,002

UF seems a bit better equipped to be a "two-sport" school...

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx
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But if both sports are in the black what should it matter?

I get it if they can't afford to chase big names or retain coaches who get big offers, but to be a top conference school with both some history and recent MBB success and just come right out and say, "we're not really trying to be a good MBB program any more"? What's the point of that?
 
MNCyGuy said:
But if both sports are in the black what should it matter?

I get it if they can't afford to chase big names or retain coaches who get big offers, but to be a top conference school with both some history and recent MBB success and just come right out and say, "we're not really trying to be a good MBB program any more"? What's the point of that?
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It just seems odd that a team with intentions of becoming an upper-echelon DI MBB program would hire a DII coach, especially given the number of prominent programs in the area. Yes, ISU hired Hoiberg, who wasn't a coach at all, but at least Hoiberg could (and did without hesitation in his early interviews) rattle off a laundry list of prominent NBA mentors/associates to grab some recruiting attention.

MU wasn't a terrible program under Haith. He was definitely trending downward, but still finished 76–28 (.731) overall 34–19 (.642) conference at MU.
 
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jbhtexas said:
It just seems odd that a team with intentions of becoming an upper-echelon DI MBB program would hire a DII coach, especially given the number of prominent programs in the area. Yes, ISU hired Hoiberg, who wasn't a coach at all, but at least Hoiberg could (and did without hesitation in his early interviews) rattle off a laundry list of prominent NBA mentors/associates to grab some recruiting attention.

MU wasn't a terrible program under Haith. He was definitely trending downward, but still finished 76–28 (.731) overall 34–19 (.642) conference at MU.
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Exactly. Surely there were better candidates, even if they wanted to operate under a tight MBB budget in order to steer more money to FB.
 
jbhtexas said:
It just seems odd that a team with intentions of becoming an upper-echelon DI MBB program would hire a DII coach, especially given the number of prominent programs in the area. Yes, ISU hired Hoiberg, who wasn't a coach at all, but at least Hoiberg could (and did without hesitation in his early interviews) rattle off a laundry list of prominent NBA mentors/associates to grab some recruiting attention.

MU wasn't a terrible program under Haith. He was definitely trending downward, but still finished 76–28 (.731) overall 34–19 (.642) conference at MU.
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Oh I don't know. Wisconsin seems to have done fairly well under Bo Ryan and his pedigree isn't that much different than Coach Anderson.
 
jbhtexas said:
Ryan demonstrates that it certainly can work, but it is still not a common strategy.
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Good point. I applaud Mizzu for having the guts to give this a try. They really have struggled overall since Norm Stewart retired in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, they've had some good years, but long term stability has been fleeting. Most of the high profile coaches or hot coaches want big money and long term contracts. The next level of coaches still involve good money and more risk .

Why not go this route in light of that? What to you have to lose? If it's a bad decision, let the guy go and you can go after the next flavor of the month. If it's good they have an alum who will stick around. It's not much different than the Fred Hoiberg hire other than this guy does have coaching experience and is 20 years older.
 
Bobber said:
Good point. I applaud Mizzu for having the guts to give this a try. They really have struggled overall since Norm Stewart retired in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, they've had some good years, but long term stability has been fleeting. Most of the high profile coaches or hot coaches want big money and long term contracts. The next level of coaches still involve good money and more risk .

Why not go this route in light of that? What to you have to lose? If it's a bad decision, let the guy go and you can go after the next flavor of the month. If it's good they have an alum who will stick around. It's not much different than the Fred Hoiberg hire other than this guy does have coaching experience and is 20 years older.
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If I was a Mizzou fan, my questions would be what Anderson has for a recruiting hook, and whether he can translate what he's done at DIII to DI. We've seen that it can be difficult to translate success from DI mid-major to DI major. Perhaps he's well known enough in Missouri to snag the in-state talent. The downside is if he fails, that program sinks further down, and becomes more difficult to bring back. It seems everybody gets about three years. If he succeeds, The MU AD will look like a genious.

IMO, Hoiberg's NBA connections initially gave him a big recruiting hook. Now, he can add his on-court success as well.
 
jbhtexas said:
If I was a Mizzou fan, my questions would be what Anderson has for a recruiting hook, and whether he can translate what he's done at DIII to DI. We've seen that it can be difficult to translate success from DI mid-major to DI major. Perhaps he's well known enough in Missouri to snag the in-state talent. The downside is if he fails, that program sinks further down, and becomes more difficult to bring back. It seems everybody gets about three years. If he succeeds, The MU AD will look like a genious.

IMO, Hoiberg's NBA connections initially gave him a big recruiting hook. Now, he can add his on-court success as well.
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First of all, it's D-II that he's moving up from, but that's a small error. And in reply, he's making a smaller jump than Bo Ryan made when he took over Wisconsin. Not saying Bo Ryan is the rule, by any means, but it has been done before.
 
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