I thought Lalk looked decent as well, I thought better than either Gannon or Dagel. Our tackles were pretty disappointing in the run game last year. The thing that stood out about Oni last year was that even though he was smaller he was the only lineman period that had noticeable pop when he engaged a defender.
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I thought Lalk looked decent as well, I thought better than either Gannon or Dagel. Our tackles were pretty disappointing in the run game last year. The thing that stood out about Oni last year was that even though he was smaller he was the only lineman period that had noticeable pop when he engaged a defender.
If I recall correctly, Zack Spears was giving Oni some big props during games last year. It's always good to see guys that are making this jump because of solid play rather than lackluster play from people above them!
If I was Sam I wouldn't transfer right away if I'm not the starter this fall. I would wait and graduate next spring and then I'd transfer making myself eligible immediately somewhere else.
Everyone is so sure that Rohach is the guy because he played with the 1st string the spring game scrimmage. There was another scrimmage a week earlier. Who is to say that Sam outplayed the others in the 1st scrimmage and the spring game 2nd scrimmage was altered to see who would be #2? If you read the comments, if Rohach was clearly the guy, then I think Mangino would have said that by now. It could be a strategy move to keep NDSU guessing who will start and internally, Mangino may know who is 1-2-3 but just isn't making it public. I think reading between the lines, it is between Sam and Grant, but not sure what the order is, and either does anyone on here, unless your name is Mangino or CPR. Mangino even commented that you cannot make anything of Sam's play in the scrimmage because he didn't rep with the 1st team. That says a lot to me.
DuckDynastyCy I think that you have it right. In fact, in today's Ames Tribune interview, Mangino stated that sometimes you want to see how your QB does when he is not surrounded by the 1s. Rhoads did make the comment that the offense looked pretty good in that first spring scrimmage. It wasn't until the last couple of days, that I heard that SR took nearly all the reps, with the 1s, in that scrimmage.
Yep. Grant is just too inconsistent throwing the ball. Lanning is a couple years away from being a Big 12 qb.
I'm not saying I know who it will be either, but clearly going by the spring game alone, and Mangino's comments and Sam not getting ANY time with the one's or two skill players in the spring game, and Grant himself in an interview saying he had a slower start than he wanted in spring drills but caught on later, and CPR stating last Fall that Grant would take the first snap in the springtime, all lead me to believe that most LIKELY, Sam may have proven himself earlier. CPR did what he said he would do to not stir up the media frenzy and started Grant, but none of us know who peformed best all spring and MM does not want to tell us IMO. Sam is a very good QB (see 2012 when healthy), and those of you judging him last year, when he was severely banged up from the first game on, are really not giving him a fair shake. Most any QB would flush the pocket early vs. get smeared when you have less than 2 seconds on a lot of plays to get rid of the ball on a 15-20 yard route and no WR with separation all Fall. NO ONE would have succeeded with the OL (because of the injuries) that he had to play behind. I think Grant can be really good too, and in his defense, throwing the ball in that wind during the spring game, is not a fair assessment of how he might perform on a calmer day either. Bottom line is, you cannot read into the spring game too much, and I think CPR wants it that way. To think we are "entitled" to know who the QB is from the coaches is really quite humorous. MM could give a rats *** what the fans think. He will manage the offense and the QB's, the way he wants to. Including Press Reports. After last year's mishandling in that department, I for one think it is a welcome change.
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Bigsag, the only reason I have that theory is before the spring scrimmage, MM was adamant that he wanted to narrow it down to 2 QB's ASAP. When Sam didn't take any snaps with the 1's or 2's that only told me that MM was giving the other guys all the reps he so could to help narrow it down, or Sam had a really horrible spring. I believe the latter is not that likely because Sam seemed pretty upbeat about how the offense was moving on the interview around the time of the 1st scrimmage. I do not know if he was taking the snaps with the 1's then then or not, so you must have information I don't have? But c'mon, how likely is it that your most experienced QB doesn't take any snaps in the spring game with the 1's or 2's, unless he is out of the running (in which case I think MM would have told him and asked him to transfer) or he had learned MM's offense the quickest and performed the best up UNTIL the spring game, which I find to be more likely. Just a guess from all the info. Just because CPR said last Fall, before MM was hired, that Grant would take the snaps with the 1st group in the spring, means Jack squat. The QB's all are starting over with a new OC, new plays, so last year means very little, I am guessing to MM, especially since he knew Sam was banged up the whole year. Plus, I am sure he saw the 2012 Kansas game where Sam lit them up like a Christmas tree.
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I'm not a big fan of Gannon at tackle. He was somewhat injured last year but he seemed a touch slow at tackle. Dagel, on the other hand could be a dark horse candidate for best player on the team. He is the prototype body for a LT, moves well, and had decent strength for someone his age. You have to remember he was 6'8 245 when he came in. 2 years just isn't enough time to develop that much body. He's an NFL guy and I have said it before, but if Gannon were to get beat out, you could have five future NFL guys on that line. A lot of them are still young but in 2015, that line should be very good, if not dominant.
Never played organize football, can someone explain the difference between Z- F- and X- receivers? I'm assuming one is a slot WR and the other 2 are in the wings, but what makes the wing WR's different from one another? I guess I just don't understand it because although Bundrage is at one of the positions, I have to think Montgomery would be standing at the side opposite where Harris is, rather than backing him (Bundrage) up.
In our old offense, X was the left side wideout, F was the Flanker and Z was the wideout on the right side. Not sure if it is the same with this offense, but I am guessing so.
I agree wit DDC, why not give the guys who hadn't caught on as quickly as many reps as possible if SR was ahead of them, plus SR likely needs reps when his guys aren't as good as the D, causes tighter windows etc. This also gives film for SR to improve in these situations. So a win win for everyone involved.
Umm, I like optimism, but we'd have to see amazing growth (like the type of growth only seen by Barry Bonds and his cronies) to even sniff a little bit of what you say at the end of your comments.
If that's the situation why wouldn't you name Sam as the starter? In fact, if that is the real situation I'll have lost respect for Rhoads for not naming a guy. Does he really think that "screwing with guys heads as much as possible" is a good coaching technique?
What do you mean? We have a lot of talent on that line. Farniok and Dagel are NFL guys. Campos definitely has a good shot as well.
Omoile is young so I don't really know, and Burton is a beast as well.
If it is weight you mean our guys are plenty big. We are finally not undersized on the line.
I think MM would if there was a clear #1 right now, but that wasn't his expressed goal coming into the spring game. It was finding the top 2. My guess is that there is not enough separation between them yet, or else MM would name a starter.
