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I still think one of the main problems is the fact that bball tickets are sold as a package with other sports... Sunday and Monday I was taking a look at the ISU ticket trader page on facebook and about 90% of the people selling their tickets were women. Now I am not saying women cant be into sports or anything like that, but reality is most of them dont care about it. Therefore, most of these chicks got tickets for football to go tailgating and now that it is bball season they just dont care...

The same applies for many guys too... I see this one kid selling his bball ticket every single game, not even kidding. This is not the only reason why attendance sucks, but IMO it has a little bit to do with it.
This shouldn't be a problem. If you just want football tickets, then you can just buy football tickets. If you want basketball tickets then you have to buy both football and basketball tickets. If the football games were under attended then your argument would work.
 
Complaining on here ain't gonna change it though. Do I wish there was better attendance? Yea. Is there much I can do? No. I already go with all my friends that have tickets.

This is the truth

Complaining on CycloneFanatic about student turnout is incredibly dumb. It's like going to the back of a soup kitchen and complaining about low rates of volunteerism, or going into a polling site on Election Day and complaining about low voter turnout.
 
I think its safe to say that with the current system, a lot of basketball tickets ended up being sold in the all sports package, where upperclassmen get first rights and exhausted the basketball allotment before most new students could even think about it. Those upperclassmen had McDermott in their high school years/first year at ISU and most of them probably could give two ***** about seeing a basketball game on a Tuesday night. My guess is that it will get better before it gets worse.
 
Missed the game due to a group project. Gave my ID to someone else and they went. First game I've missed since the Kansas State FB game in 2012 (father was in ICU and I drove to Ohio).

I can't make excuses for everyone but sometimes people just can't go. Complaining on here ain't gonna change it though. Do I wish there was better attendance? Yea. Is there much I can do? No. I already go with all my friends that have tickets.
I agree that sometimes you can't, but that doesn't explain the mass sea of empty seats. How much did the athletic department oversell by? Was it 500? If there are typically 800-1000 empty seats most games, that means there are 1300-1500 that can't seem to go every game? Doubt it.
 
My 2 cents:

1) I'm grateful for the students that were there. They were loud, they were engaged, they were a force (even tho they couldn't seem to do a dang thing about the UT free throws).

2) As one of those "old people" in the upper deck - yes, we jump up & cheer periodically, but we rarely stand for the entire game...and there are several factors to that.
a) I'm old. I have a granddaughter at UNI. I'm THAT old. I'm sorry, but I am simply not able to stand for the entire game. When I was 18-22 years old, yup...I could. Get back to me when you're within a year of 60. Trust me, I can holler just as loud when I'm sitting as when I'm standing. :)
b) Many of the people around me are old as well. If I stand, they have to stand as well. Some of them are even older than me...so maybe they're in the same boat - the spirit is willing but the flesh is weaker.
c) Many of the people around me who are not old have small children with them. Future Cyclones...they're raising them right! However, if you're holding a tired child in your lap, it's kinda tough to be standing...and if the old broad in front of you is standing, you're not going to see much of the game.

Maybe we should back off of this continuous "young" vs "old", students vs. donors, and just be happy that we have a team worth watching? We can just pity the folks who don't make it to the games...they don't know what they're missing, being a part of that atmosphere.
 
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This one is so lame it's not even funny. But don't let the man hold you down! Leave those seats empty - that'll show the MBB program!
I like how your argument is how the students who don't show up are bad, and therefore bash the ones that do show up. I don't understand this logic.
 
I like how your argument is how the students who don't show up are bad, and therefore bash the ones that do show up. I don't understand this logic.

Careful with that deflection machine. You can't handle the facts and logic.
 
This is the truth

Complaining on CycloneFanatic about student turnout is incredibly dumb. It's like going to the back of a soup kitchen and complaining about low rates of volunteerism, or going into a polling site on Election Day and complaining about low voter turnout.
Just like it was dumb for the students to complain a bunch here when their section was oversold and again this winter for the Iowa/KU games when a few people got turned away? I doubt you posted the same message then.
 
I think its safe to say that with the current system, a lot of basketball tickets ended up being sold in the all sports package, where upperclassmen get first rights and exhausted the basketball allotment before most new students could even think about it. Those upperclassmen had McDermott in their high school years/first year at ISU and most of them probably could give two ***** about seeing a basketball game on a Tuesday night. My guess is that it will get better before it gets worse.
Most of these same students like myself went through high school with Chizik here. Doesn't seem to stop 10,000 student showing up to football games on Saturday's. Shouldn't be this hard to get 2,000 to show up for basketball games.
 
I agree that sometimes you can't, but that doesn't explain the mass sea of empty seats. How much did the athletic department oversell by? Was it 500? If there are typically 800-1000 empty seats most games, that means there are 1300-1500 that can't seem to go every game? Doubt it.

I can't make excuses for everyone. Maybe some people just aren't into basketball as we are on here?
 
Missed the game due to a group project. Gave my ID to someone else and they went. First game I've missed since the Kansas State FB game in 2012 (father was in ICU and I drove to Ohio).

I can't make excuses for everyone but sometimes people just can't go. Complaining on here ain't gonna change it though. Do I wish there was better attendance? Yea. Is there much I can do? No. I already go with all my friends that have tickets.

This is acceptable, but I highly doubt every student of the 2,000 oversold tickets had group projects or other school work. I am a full time student at ISU and have made it to every home game (one when I had food poisoning). I have regular $150 assigned seat tickets. I would kill to have a shot at sitting down in the lower deck in the student section but all those tickets were sold out extremely quick this year and I was forced to buy these the past 2 years.

All I want to say is if the student section is going to claim to be one of the best in the nation you have to show up for all the games not just the rivals or top 10 opponents..
 
This is acceptable, but I highly doubt every student of the 2,000 oversold tickets had group projects or other school work. I am a full time student at ISU and have made it to every home game (one when I had food poisoning). I have regular $150 assigned seat tickets. I would kill to have a shot at sitting down in the lower deck in the student section but all those tickets were sold out extremely quick this year and I was forced to buy these the past 2 years.

All I want to say is if the student section is going to claim to be one of the best in the nation you have to show for all the games not just the rivals or top 10 opponents..
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This is the only other picture I have of the fans (specifically the upper deck). It was taken at the first media timeout. There are still holes. And you can kind of see the corner section. And it still is not filled in.
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-Simply over-selling is not the answer. It probably makes it worse as far as getting students motivated to go.
-Reduce the number and sell more regular tickets. It would probably help attendance, and a little shortage can make people view student tickets as a privilege and not a right.
-Market and promote the games to students more. Get the AD to reach out to other organizations besides CA (something CA should be doing to get students to games).

CA is worthless. The primary reason you need such organizations is for things like welcoming recruits and getting fellow students to come to games. CA does neither.


Amen 10 minutes around curly haired chick and we lose any chance we have at that recruit. ;)
 
This is acceptable, but I highly doubt every student of the 2,000 oversold tickets had group projects or other school work. I am a full time student at ISU and have made it to every home game (one when I had food poisoning). I have regular $150 assigned seat tickets. I would kill to have a shot at sitting down in the lower deck in the student section but all those tickets were sold out extremely quick this year and I was forced to buy these the past 2 years.

All I want to say is if the student section is going to claim to be one of the best in the nation you have to show up for all the games not just the rivals or top 10 opponents..
Exactly. Really bugs me that CAC works so hard to make everyone vote that we are the best student section in the world. Seems really annoying to me.
 
"Most of these same students like myself went through high school with Chizik here. Doesn't seem to stop 10,000 student showing up to football games on Saturday's. Shouldn't be this hard to get 2,000 to show up for basketball games."


Because the younger students could get football tickets. They couldn't get basketball tickets. Plus, Asians seem to enjoy football more than basketball.
 

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