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mt85

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The list of knee injuries to our offensive linemen continues to grow with addition of Gannon. The list now includes Gannon, Farniok, Dika, Lalk and possibly Tuftee?.

We are losing roughly one player per game. Is this bad luck or have we changed something in our training, techniques or schemes that is contributing to the rash of injuries? I'm inclined to believe it is just bad luck, but the rate is so alarming that is does raise the question.
 
I'm not an expert but it seems to be mostly bad luck and predisposition. Dika has had bad knees since high school and was a risk coming into college (currently had at least 1 surgery on each knee) and Tuftee had issues before this year. I don't know much about Gannon. From what it sounds like we were actually "lucky" that Farniok and Lalk weren't out for the year as the braces they both wear reduce what would have been full on ACL or MCL tears to only MCL sprains. The only other thing I can think of for why this has occurred often is maybe the grass/turf is an issue but I'm too lazy to see what surface they were playing on when each got injured. Hoped that cleared a little bit up!
 
Could be at times our guys are overmatched physically and they are trying so hard that they are doing too much for their bodies capabilities.

Again, not their fault because they are playing their a** off but, but its a possiblity.

But yes most likely bad luck.
 
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TheJackWePack5 said:
I think that at times our guys are overmatched physically and they are trying so hard that they are doing too much for their bodies capabilities.

Again, not their fault because they are playing their a** off but, but its a possiblity.
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So we need to run more screen passes where we let them come through?
 
mt85 said:
The list of knee injuries to our offensive linemen continues to grow with addition of Gannon. The list now includes Gannon, Farniok, Dika, Lalk and possibly Tuftee?.

We are losing roughly one player per game. Is this bad luck or have we changed something in our training, techniques or schemes that is contributing to the rash of injuries? I'm inclined to believe it is just bad luck, but the rate is so alarming that is does raise the question.
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I've wondered the same thing. We seem to really pack it in tight, which I'm sure is part of the scheme, but I've wondered if taking some bigger splits might keep the guys cleaner and maybe even open up the inside run game a little more.
 
MilehighClone said:
I've wondered the same thing. We seem to really pack it in tight, which I'm sure is part of the scheme, but I've wondered if taking some bigger splits might keep the guys cleaner and maybe even open up the inside run game a little more.
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I thought they were not packing in tight enough. We need more barricades for pass protection. Looked like NASCAR the last game.
 
What is the reasoning behind flipping the right side of the line for the left side of the line repeatedly throughout games? Since I've never seen that done in the NFL or any other college team, not saying that's the cause of the injuries, but how can you get comfortable on one side of the line when you go back and forth several times a game?
 
TheJackWePack5 said:
Could be at times our guys are overmatched physically and they are trying so hard that they are doing too much for their bodies capabilities.

Again, not their fault because they are playing their a** off but, but its a possiblity.

But yes most likely bad luck.
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Good grief.

I would think this has something more to do with luck. I just don't see the MCL as something you hurt partially through training. I could be wrong there. It would also help to see how they got hurt.
 
BurgundyClone said:
What is the reasoning behind flipping the right side of the line for the left side of the line repeatedly throughout games? Since I've never seen that done in the NFL or any other college team, not saying that's the cause of the injuries, but how can you get comfortable on one side of the line when you go back and forth several times a game?
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I don't know. I think it's stupid as well especially when you have a boat load of new guys. Now they have to worry about everything as well as switch sides.
 
Nothing about knee injuries is about a "scheme" or "training" it comes from getting rolled up on Or getting hit. All of those players you mentioned have knee injuries. And once you injure a knee you're more prone to keep injuring that knee. Your first knee injury is bad luck, after that it's kind of expected
 
mt85 said:
The list of knee injuries to our offensive linemen continues to grow with addition of Gannon. The list now includes Gannon, Farniok, Dika, Lalk and possibly Tuftee?.
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Did I hear the announcers correctly, we had 3 freshmen playing in the offensive line at one point during last weeks game. Man if that is true, I hope we can get them through the season injury free. I have always thought that the oline is the most important part of a football team, if you break it into 4 areas, d backs, d line , o line and, ball handlers. The one weakness that is next to impossible to cover up is the oline.
 
Knee injuries can happen to anyone at any time. It's bad luck. I had a co-workers who's son played for Ohio State in the early '00s. Was mainly on kick-off coverage. He had ACL tears in both knees. The first one he wasn't even in contact with someone. It was while trying to make a sharp cut to get to the runner. The second one, on the other knee happened when he got rolled on during a tackle.

I don't think it really has anything to do with training, but there probably is something to always having the goal of being bigger, stronger, faster, it puts a lot of stress on those parts of the body that aren't evolved to be lugging 250 - 300+ pounds around at those kinds of speeds and then come to a sudden halt or get pushed in an unexpected direction.
 
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