Well if that's the case then everything is related to the RPI. Sorry Hoks still aren't going to make it. Hey, at least you'll have another chance to get some free pizza at CHA!
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Well if that's the case then everything is related to the RPI. Sorry Hoks still aren't going to make it. Hey, at least you'll have another chance to get some free pizza at CHA!
Saying with the exception to RPI is like saying "Besides that fat girl I hooked up with when I was drunk, I have never cheated on my wife."
Oh ya and no Va Tech hasn't been ranked all year
Is it Wednesday afternoon? Hell yes I'm drunk, aren't you?
Iowa has 1 way into the NCAA Tournament... Beat Nebraska and win at least 2 games in the conference tournament. Anything short of that and they have no shot. If they can pull that off they at least have a little hope of maybe snagging a play in game.
Iowa won't get in unless they win 3 more games (ie. they have to beat someone good and not Nebraska twice). They play in (by far) the toughest conference in the nation...and their SOS is 115. That's amazing.
I guess a non-con SOS of 313 will do that for you.
I guess a non-con SOS of 313 will do that for you.
this is accurate. they will beat us and nebraska, and essentially be facing OSU for a shot at the tournament.
EDIT: i am a northwestern grad and i forgot which board i was on for second.
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Iowa is the "Virginia Tech" of NCAA Tournaments past. They played in a strong conference, probably will finish with 20+ wins, but will miss the Tournament because they played one of the most pathetic non-conference schedules ever assembled. If it wasn't for ISU and Wichita State their non-con SOS would probably be dead last in the entire country.
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- vs
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- W
- 86-55
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[TD]Nov 12[/TD]
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- vs
- CMU
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- W
- 73-61
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[TD]Nov 15[/TD]
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- vs
- HOW
[TD]
- W
- 66-36
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[TD]Nov 17[/TD]
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- vs
- WEBB
[TD]
- W
- 65-56
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[TD]Nov 20[/TD]
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- vs
- WKU*
[TD]
- W
- 63-55
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[TD]Nov 21[/TD]
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- vs
- WICH*
[TD]
- L
- 75-63
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[TR="class: oddrow team-41-259"]
[TD]Nov 27[/TD]
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- @
- VT
[TD]
- L
- 95-79
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[TR="class: evenrow team-41-357"]
[TD]Dec 1[/TD]
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- vs
- AMCC
[TD]
- W
- 88-59
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[TR="class: oddrow team-41-233"]
[TD]Dec 4[/TD]
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- vs
- SDAK
[TD]
- W
- 87-63
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[TD]Dec 7[/TD]
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- vs
- ISU
[TD]
- W
- 80-71
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[TD]Dec 15[/TD]
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- vs
- UNI*
[TD]
- W
- 80-73
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[TD]Dec 19[/TD]
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- vs
- SCST
[TD]
- W
- 90-46
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[TD]Dec 22[/TD]
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- vs
- COPP
[TD]
- W
- 80-50
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Let me throw some fuel on this "Iowa on the bubble" fire:
Based on Basketball Prospectus | Easy Bubble Solver (which has a good track record),
Iowa and ISU are both in the last four in: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dahp8ue7saglhdm/j0vbilutar
Based on Basketball Prospectus | Easy Bubble Solver (which has a good track record),
Iowa and ISU are both in the last four in: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dahp8ue7saglhdm/j0vbilutar
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lol,
Basketball Prospectus | Easy Bubble Solver
ISU is first 4 out, Iowa isn't on the list.....donno what article you are seeing
Hey don't try to sneak in Iona and think we won't catch on that it's not Iowa...nobody here forgets Tavon Sledge!
The Bracket Project's Bracket Matrix - 2013
ISU in 83 of 91 brackets (91%)
Iowa is 2 of 91 brackets (2%)
there lies the difference
ISU in 83 of 91 brackets (91%)
Iowa is 2 of 91 brackets (2%)
there lies the difference
therein lies the fallacy...almost all of those brackets are a snapshot in time for RIGHT NOW and do not incorporate the probability of future results. we are safe right now but have at least three tough games remaining.
South Carolina State RPI: 342 Record: 3-23
Howard RPI: 334 Record: 6-22
Texas A&M CC RPI: 325 Record: 5-21
Texas Pan America RPI: 310 Record: 11-15
Coppin State RPI: 309 Record: 6-23
Central Michigan RPI: 263 Record: 10-18
South Dakota RPI: 241 Record: 8-19
Gardner-Webb RPI: 184 Record: 17-11
W.Kentucky RPI: 178 Record: 15-15
These are 9 of Iowa's non-con opponents and their resumes. Gardner-Webb is the best of the bunch at 17-11 which makes sense since Iowa had to make a furious rally from 23 points behind to win that game. The epic level of pathetic opponents is hard to believe... 5... count them.... 5 teams that haven't even reached double digits in wins this year and 7 of the 9 teams aren't even close to a .500 record.
Howard RPI: 334 Record: 6-22
Texas A&M CC RPI: 325 Record: 5-21
Texas Pan America RPI: 310 Record: 11-15
Coppin State RPI: 309 Record: 6-23
Central Michigan RPI: 263 Record: 10-18
South Dakota RPI: 241 Record: 8-19
Gardner-Webb RPI: 184 Record: 17-11
W.Kentucky RPI: 178 Record: 15-15
These are 9 of Iowa's non-con opponents and their resumes. Gardner-Webb is the best of the bunch at 17-11 which makes sense since Iowa had to make a furious rally from 23 points behind to win that game. The epic level of pathetic opponents is hard to believe... 5... count them.... 5 teams that haven't even reached double digits in wins this year and 7 of the 9 teams aren't even close to a .500 record.
How is that a fallacy? "Right now" is right now, the end of the season, conference tournaments are starting, selection Sunday is a week and a half away. This isn't Lunardi's August bracket that we're talking about.
if you want to interpret it that way, feel free. we lose tonight and its nail biting time.
Iowa will most certainly pay the price for this non-con schedule. But really, is the following line-up that much different? This is 9 of Iowa State's non-con games -Team/RPI
Southern -186
Alabama A&M - 330
Campbell- 295
NC A&T - 257
Fla Gulf Coast - 109
Nebraska Omaha - 291
Drake - 148
UMKC - No RPI, record is 8-23 (maybe not D1?)
Yale - 208
Point being, if you are a possible tournament team, you should beat everyone 150+. Is there really a difference between playing an extra game or two vs 200+ versus 300+? I think that is the flaw with RPI.
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I'm not sure how BP is doing it this year without Drew Cannon, but I think their calculation is wrong. My calculations (look at Dropbox link) have been validated against others' versions of it and are updated every day. Feel free to tell me where my mistake is.
Edit: The guy doing the EBS on BP thinks I'm right
(which is good because he can fix his version for the next calculation): https://twitter.com/NussCoug/status/309420321314848768https://twitter.com/NussCoug/status/309420605629943808
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thats my point. i guess it depends if you think that the dance should reward people for trying (which is obvious for low majors), or if its supposed to determine the best basketball team out there. iowa is real solid, but they could not beat any of the top teams in the big ten, ven at home...that is more important to me than some RPI calculation.