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What grade does your wife teach? My fiance is a teacher and something like that would be my worst nightmare. I definitely feel for ya.
 
not that this makes you feel any better, but I feel like that's exactly how so many of these tragedies happen. People downplay it, push it off, ignore it, say there's not much they can do or don't take it as seriously as they should.

I would be scared too :sad:
 
I am watching this show on PBS about Adam Lanza the Sandy Hook killer. My wife, a teacher, comes in and tells me one of her special needs students who has punched her in that past told her he was going to bring in a gun to school and kill the teachers because he had to sit out a recess. She tells the principle and the kid repeats it saying everyone better watch out. The counselors and parents got together but the kid didn't have any punishment. From what she tells me it wasn't a Lego gun kiddy threat but the kid has serious mental issues.

The counselors say the kid needs to have an evaluation but the parents refuse because the dad has aspergers and they don't want their kid labeled with mental issues. How do we force this for these types of kids? The kid is 7 by the way.

Sorry, just need to vent because it scares me. I need to worry less, not more.

I don't know what to tell you, besides the fact that sounds serious and hopefully some sense can be talked into the parents. And what kind of idiot parents, one of whom has aspergers, wouldn't be able to predict their children might have aspergers, or at least some autistic tendencies?
 
So according to the parent they would rather have a child shoot up a school rather than their child being diagnosed with a mental disorder? I just don't understand some people.
 
So according to the parent they would rather have a child shoot up a school rather than their child being diagnosed with a mental disorder? I just don't understand some people.

because they never think it would be their child
 
My mom works in an urban middle school and there's always a fear in the back of my mind that she's going to be hurt by one of her more aggressive kids, or the drug addicts that wander into the school on a semi-regular basis. If she feels strongly she should advocate for her own protection, it's her right.
 
So according to the parent they would rather have a child shoot up a school rather than their child being diagnosed with a mental disorder? I just don't understand some people.

True and the key here is that the kid shouldn't have access to guns. It takes two things for this situation. A mentally unstable person and access to weapons.
 
I am watching this show on PBS about Adam Lanza the Sandy Hook killer. My wife, a teacher, comes in and tells me one of her special needs students who has punched her in that past told her he was going to bring in a gun to school and kill the teachers because he had to sit out a recess. .

no doubt the fault of the NRA and Bush
 
My mom works in an urban middle school and there's always a fear in the back of my mind that she's going to be hurt by one of her more aggressive kids, or the drug addicts that wander into the school on a semi-regular basis. If she feels strongly she should advocate for her own protection, it's her right.
The joy of the public school system. Just throw more money their way. It's always a quick fix
 
The joy of the public school system. Just throw more money their way. It's always a quick fix
My mom is legitimately a saint for the **** she puts up with for what she makes at that school. It's just so poorly run and in such a bad neighborhood.
 
So according to the parent they would rather have a child shoot up a school rather than their child being diagnosed with a mental disorder? I just don't understand some people.

Because they wouldn't want their child to have a complex even if it lowered the risk of something bad happening.
 
I am watching this show on PBS about Adam Lanza the Sandy Hook killer. My wife, a teacher, comes in and tells me one of her special needs students who has punched her in that past told her he was going to bring in a gun to school and kill the teachers because he had to sit out a recess. She tells the principle and the kid repeats it saying everyone better watch out. The counselors and parents got together but the kid didn't have any punishment. From what she tells me it wasn't a Lego gun kiddy threat but the kid has serious mental issues.

The counselors say the kid needs to have an evaluation but the parents refuse because the dad has aspergers and they don't want their kid labeled with mental issues. How do we force this for these types of kids? The kid is 7 by the way.

Sorry, just need to vent because it scares me. I need to worry less, not more.
If he's repeating it and the parents are brushing it off I'd file a complaint with the cops. Seems like elevating at the school level did no good.

Keep taking it up the ladder.
 
My mom is legitimately a saint for the **** she puts up with for what she makes at that school. It's just so poorly run and in such a bad neighborhood.
corporal punishment back in schools would help

thank your national Teacher's Union. So happy they're NY-based. always have everyone's best interests at heart, especially in fly-over country.
 
corporal punishment back in schools would help

thank your national Teacher's Union. So happy they're NY-based. always have everyone's best interests at heart, especially in fly-over country.

can we keep this out of the cave or you start your own cave thread on the topic? Please?
 
If he is special needs for behavior and not academic needs, the reality is there is little the school can do. IF the student as a behavior disability, and IF it is determined these outbursts are a result of the disability, the school has limited options. By law, the student must be placed in the least restrictive environment possible. And the courts and Office of Civil Rights can get involved to ensure that is the case. In addition, a student with a behavior IEP can only be suspended for a total of 10 days maximum in the entire year. There are ways around but it takes a determined administrator and supportive Superintendent and school board.

Now, actually bringing a weapon can be grounds for expulsion, behavior disorder or no. But threats will often result in little corrective action. Sad reality.
 
corporal punishment back in schools would help

thank your national Teacher's Union. So happy they're NY-based. always have everyone's best interests at heart, especially in fly-over country.

Actually, there is still corporal punishment in some states. And corporal punishment isn't a solution for parenting, mental health issues and/or our culture.
 
I am watching this show on PBS about Adam Lanza the Sandy Hook killer. My wife, a teacher, comes in and tells me one of her special needs students who has punched her in that past told her he was going to bring in a gun to school and kill the teachers because he had to sit out a recess. She tells the principle and the kid repeats it saying everyone better watch out. The counselors and parents got together but the kid didn't have any punishment. From what she tells me it wasn't a Lego gun kiddy threat but the kid has serious mental issues.

The counselors say the kid needs to have an evaluation but the parents refuse because the dad has aspergers and they don't want their kid labeled with mental issues. How do we force this for these types of kids? The kid is 7 by the way.

Sorry, just need to vent because it scares me. I need to worry less, not more.

Well, whatever you do, for God's sake, don't let her shove the student!
 

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