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Exactly.. the crew was really praising him while i was watching.. i think he does need to become the pernament starter for at least the rest of the year
He didn't start that game, came in as relief, can't remember if it was due to injury or performance.
As long as Sage plays at least average football the rest of the way, he'll have the starting job for the rest of the year and if he doesn't have one with Houston next season - he'll have one someplace else.
I think he's earned the shot to be the guy for someone going into the '08 season. I just hope it's on a team with at least some talent around him.
I think he's earned the shot to be the guy for someone going into the '08 season. I just hope it's on a team with at least some talent around him.
Sage is starting to get compared to Matt Schaub in Atlanta...the Falcons knew he was good and tried to hold on to him for as long as possible (I bet they wish they waited another year) but just couldn't keep him because he became too valuable.
The Bears desperately need a QB. Coincidence?
The Bears desperately need a QB. Coincidence?
It was great to see the NFL Network and ESPN singing his praises. Both were on board with him starting the rest of the year.
Did anybody watch the NFL Network postgame? GOod god. Did you see the rocks that Mario Williams was wearing in his ears?
Did anybody watch the NFL Network postgame? GOod god. Did you see the rocks that Mario Williams was wearing in his ears?
The only reason why the Falcons regret the trade at this point is DJ Shockley got injured in the preseason. Shockley's development and popularity in Atlanta (he was a Georgia Bulldog) made Schaub expendable. The Falcons were actually supposed to be OK at the QB position this year until Shockley got injured, as apparently he has the skills to run the offense Petrino was bringing in. But then Shockley got injured and we were stuck with Harrington and later Leftwich, neither of which are the type of QB that are the style of QB that best works in Petrino's scheme (and debatable as to whether they are capable of running a pro offense whatsoever).
Bottom line, though, Shockley's development made Schaub expendable, and the only reason why we miss Schaub now is that Shockley got cut down with a season-ending injury in the preseason.
Shockly has never thrown a pass in the NFL correct? I'm not so sure Schaub was that expendable (maybe they got a good deal they couldn't pass up?). Those are some big expectations on a guy who hasn't even played in the NFL yet. Schaub had shown multiple times (when in Atlanta) that he was a capable NFL starter.
You obviously know more about the Falcons than I do, did Schaub fit into Petrino's system? Or did they strictly want to groom Shockley into the eventual starter?
You obviously know more about the Falcons than I do, did Schaub fit into Petrino's system? Or did they strictly want to groom Shockley into the eventual starter?
Right, Shockly was a completely green QB.
Atlanta messed up - period. If they had a QB that had been durable, I would not say that. But, Vick's style of play led him to get injured more often than most QBs. Oddly enough, it wasn't an injury that took him out.
Atlanta messed up - period. If they had a QB that had been durable, I would not say that. But, Vick's style of play led him to get injured more often than most QBs. Oddly enough, it wasn't an injury that took him out.
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I think it's hard to say that Atlanta messed up that bad. After all, what is Schaub's record as a starter with Houston? 4-7? Not exactly lighting the world on fire is he? And he's also hurt, you say? Wow, Atlanta really dropped the ball by letting an injured quarterback with a losing record go.
That being said, I do agree with you in that Shockley getting hurt was a big blow to the Falcons, but Schaub or no Schaub, this team wasn't likely to do much from the get go.
That being said, I do agree with you in that Shockley getting hurt was a big blow to the Falcons, but Schaub or no Schaub, this team wasn't likely to do much from the get go.
Well, the winning statistics for Sage are skewed a little too - you'll notice his starts for Miami aren't mentioned.
Schaub probably isn't as bad as 4-7 and Sage isn't as good as 3-0, the rest of the Houston Texan players and their opponents have something to say about the outcomes as well.
That said Sage has put in a ton of quality minutes everywhere he's been a backup and does deserve a starting job in todays NFL where over half of the starting spots are not in the near future.
Reading earlier comparisons of his situation to Shaubs last year did give me a shutter ... please please don't get him (Sage) traded to the Falcons. That's a mess nobody wants.
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Schaub is basically a slower version of Vick, and Vick didn't even fit into Petrino's system. I think that was one of the selling points - They were willing to make it work with Vick (with his talent and all), but not with Schaub. Sometimes I wonder what kind of QB is capable of playing in his system, as neither runners nor pocket passers are a fit for his system
I still think the biggest problem in Atlanta never was the QB (although Harrington's never going to be the solution there) - it's the WRs. They cannot catch a lob pass thrown perfectly to them. I'm not going out there to say that Vick or Harrington would be the greatest passers in the league with a different receiving corps, but a lot of Vick's completion % is explained by the fact that his receivers continuously flat out dropped balls they should have caught (I'd say his completion % could have been at least 5, maybe 10 points higher if they held onto the passes). That was the whole reason why the Falcons brought in an aging Joe Horn from New Orleans - to mentor the Falcons' receivers and teach them to catch in the NFL. Obviously it hasn't worked, as they continue to drop passes, and I think it's time to start over with the receiving corps.
No he isn't. Shaub is completely different than Vick. He is a pocket passer with a little mobility, mostly because he's younger.
That was always the contrast when he came in to back up Vick the offense totally changed to a down the field attack vs the ground game short passes offense with Vick.
When I was watching a MNF game a couple of years back, when Vick was out with injury and Schaub was playing, that was the comparison they made. He HAD to be more of a "pocket QB" than Vick simply because he didn't have his wheels (he can't make defenders miss him in the open field like Vick could), but he does have a set of wheels compared to average QBs. He also doesn't have the cannon that Vick possessed. But basically he was labeled as a "similar" QB to Vick.