*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Very cool. But don't you think they'd split east/west?

East:
Miami
FSU
Clem
VT
WV
Texas
TCU

West:
OU
OSU
KU
KSU
ISU
TT
BU

I like yours better but logistically wouldn't the schools want it as I have it?

Until the programs in the East actually had to play that schedule. It's basically taking the best of the Big East, ACC, Mountain West and tossing them in with the likes of Texas in some champions league level division.
 
Any hypothetical conference cannot split up Texas and Oklahoma. Simply will not happen. They want to play each other every year and only once every year (no rematch in a conf championship game).

They MUST be in the same pod/division.
 
Any hypothetical conference cannot split up Texas and Oklahoma. Simply will not happen. They want to play each other every year and only once every year (no rematch in a conf championship game).

They MUST be in the same pod/division.

I wonder if the Big XVI happened if we might do what the B1G did to make it "balanced" and not pay too close attention to geography?
 
Emails show the Big 12 tried to stop Missouri from leaving for the SEC | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports

No one thought this was a smooth transition — that was evident by Kansas' refusal to play Missouri in the future — but this is the first time the details of what was a really tense and angry breakup have been revealed. An injunction probably would have been the only way to keep an unhappy Missouri in the Big 12, but then the Big 12 would have been in the same situation that the Big East was in with West Virginia, which is something Neinas adamantly criticized.
This was a breakup that was destined to happen and it's probably better that it wasn't dragged out through the court system.
 
I like being between ND and baylor on their schedule. We have always had plenty of night games, just sounds like bob is complaining like his old coach Fry did all the time.
 


That's a lot of *****ing about stuff that noone could really control.
The night game excuse is BS. It's not like playing at night hurt them more than their oponent. Most teams love night games because of the exposure. If they want, ISU will take some of their prime time slots and they can play at 11 on FSN.

Noone could create a team for them to play in the non-con. Also, they are complaining about playing 9 straight games, whereas ISU has played EVERY game without a bye recently.
 
That's a lot of *****ing about stuff that noone could really control.
The night game excuse is BS. It's not like playing at night hurt them more than their oponent. Most teams love night games because of the exposure. If they want, ISU will take some of their prime time slots and they can play at 11 on FSN.

Noone could create a team for them to play in the non-con. Also, they are complaining about playing 9 straight games, whereas ISU has played EVERY game without a bye recently.

I got the same feeling. Just a lot of ******** about how being one of the best programs in the nation has minor inconveniences that seem a little "unfair." I think it's unfair they even have to have to play road games. OU is already so great and so important they should just get all home games. It really chafes me to see one of the teams that almost left the Big 12 SPECIFICALLY to get more TV money complaining about the repercussions of giving TV networks all the power.

It really put me over the edge when they whined about the placement of a bye, a situation ISU has faced several times in the last few years.

tl;dr This is like the hottest girl in school complaining about having too many dates to prom.
 
That's a lot of *****ing about stuff that noone could really control.
The night game excuse is BS. It's not like playing at night hurt them more than their oponent. Most teams love night games because of the exposure. If they want, ISU will take some of their prime time slots and they can play at 11 on FSN.

Noone could create a team for them to play in the non-con. Also, they are complaining about playing 9 straight games, whereas ISU has played EVERY game without a bye recently.

We did have 2 byes last year. Although those are the only ones I remember in a long time.


On the Thursday night games, isn't that as much of an AD thing as a Conference thing? Isn't our AD the ones who set up the Thursday night games we've had in the past or a Friday night like against OSU? If they were actually trying and no one would let them, then I see the beef, seems more like they were hoping the league would do it for them.

Even the 9 game in a row scenario though, wasn't that as much of an ISU doing in the Past as a Big XII thing. I always thought the AD pushed to not have a game the weekend afte Thanksgiving. This seems more like something someone heard a fan of FSU say and took it for fact.
 
Very cool. But don't you think they'd split east/west?

East:
Miami
FSU
Clem
VT
WV
Texas
TCU

West:
OU
OSU
KU
KSU
ISU
TT
BU

I like yours better but logistically wouldn't the schools want it as I have it?

Switch Baylor and Texas and I like this line up.
 
Behind Baylor's meteoric athletic success of late, there's Starr - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and BCS Rankings

Because without him, there may be no Baylor, athletically, as we know it. When Texas A&M was headed to the SEC in September, Starr stepped out on his own, threatening legal action against the SEC and Texas A&M. Baylor was eventually joined by Kansas State and Iowa State (at least) in keeping open their right to sue. It was in part a tactical move, but a powerful one -- a litigious Starr is a dangerous Starr.
"Judge Starr was one of the heroes of conference realignment this past fall," Baylor AD Ian McCaw said. "He made a very courageous decision to introduce potential litigation into conference realignment."
At one point it looked like the Big 12 was close to breaking up, with A&M headed out the door and both Texas and Oklahoma checking out the Pac-12 again. During a 30-minute call with CBSSports.com in September, Starr mentioned on background a dizzying number of legal options available to stiff-arm the SEC.
The action slowed the conference realignment train enough for everyone to catch their breath. The move was impressive. Had the Big 12 broken up, Baylor faced the prospect of not having a BCS-level conference home. Think of going from bringing in $20 million per year based on future media rights contracts to maybe $2 million per year playing in Conference USA.
 
This article basically says that $30mil/team/year is about to be the new standard for big boy conferences...

Eye On College Football - CBSSports.com Mike Slive: SEC expansion has "strengthened us" in TV negotiations

Big 10 will always be kings when it comes to cash and they will cash in during their 2016 negotiations...probably will end up with at least $35 million/team/yr depending on how much they expand

SEC will likely come out near $30mil/team/yr when renegotiations are over

PAC12 expects to be at $30 mil/team/yr when their network is running

That means if the B12 signs this new deal they'll sit at $20 mil/team/yr +3rd tier rights for individual schools. If you end up around $23-24 mil/team/yr you're in the same ballpark, but still lagging behind. If there is any truth to the poaching of the ACC rumors, the B12 would certainly be right near the $30mil/team/yr gold standard.

Rumor is the ACC won't get more than $1-2 mil/team/yr increase with Pitt and 'Cuse so they'll be sitting at $16 mil/team/yr until 2025...Ripe for picking.

Big East??? If I had to guess, I bet they end up with about $12mil/team/yr for schools with both FB and BB.
 
ESPN, Fox may share Big 12 rights - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal

We could see some games on regular Fox channels:
The Big 12’s pending media rights extension with ESPN is being patterned after the Pac-12’s TV rights deal, sources told SportsBusiness Journal last week.

That’s because the deal, which still is weeks away from being signed, is expected to have ESPN and Fox Sports sharing some broadcast and cable programming rights, like they do in the new agreement with the Pac-12. Currently, ESPN holds the broadcast rights for Big 12 games, and Fox Sports holds the cable rights for football.
If the new deal goes through as expected, Fox could pick up the rights to some football games for its broadcast channel, while ESPN could wind up with cable rights that it would use for its channels.


As expected this is to lock NBC out:
The pending deal also keeps competitor NBC Sports from gaining a foothold in the college sports marketplace. When they completed their Pac-12 deal, ESPN and Fox Sports executives were open about their willingness to partner in order to keep NBC Sports from getting the conference’s games.
 
Big 12 expansion: To cheer or not for Louisville | Berry Tramel's Blog
Louisville has reached eight Final Fours in its history. Rick Pitino coached the Cardinals to the 2005 Final Four, then fell one game shy in both 2008 and 2009. Only North Carolina (18), UCLA (18), Duke (15), Kentucky (14), Kansas (13) and Ohio State (10) have been to more Final Fours.
As we’ve said repeatedly, the home run options for the Big 12 are gone. If the Big 12 wants to expand — for financial reasons, or geographic reasons, or political reasons — then Louisville clearly is the No. 1 option.
 
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