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Justin Hamilton update

Cyclonestate78 said:
Hamilton met with Hoiberg and had the opportunity to stay and play under the Hoiberg staff but chose to leave anyway. It certainly was his option to do as he pleased and he chose to go. Then his little immature crap on social media wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the kid's character either. Had he been honest and left in an honorable way then so be it but he didn't.
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Can we please end this ridiculous internet myth already! Dumbest thing I have ever seen anyone take offense to. He literally said "haha" at a post from Staiger making fun of Mcdermott for leaving ISU.... that means nothing! Sorry, that wasn't immature or mature, it was absolutely a meaningless laugh between friends.

I am not sure how he could have left in an "honorable" way... he did not trash Gmac or the program on the way out the door which he surely could have. The whole "closer to home" thing is hilarious, but obviously it was just a canned excuse he used to avoid having to talk bad about his former coach.
 
pulse said:
Quite the opposite. I laugh everytime Hamilton's girlfriends come on here and defend him like he was a good player. Hamilton was an average player at best. Anyone who watches college basketball knows that. Some ISU fans are used to mediocrity, and don't know the difference. I don't not like Hamilton because he left,I dislike him because he wasn't very good. I never saw any need to bash on him while he was here because he was an ISU player, but I certainly have no qualms with it now. I'll give you that he is better than Railey, but certainly not Gibson. He would see about 8 minutes a game if he were still here. That is my speculation. If you speculate more than that, that is your delusional choice.
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Anyone who watches college basketball knows that a 6-11 sophomore who is average will most likely be a valuable asset during their junior, and especially sr seasons. It takes most big men awhile to develop.
 
pulse said:
If he played the same number of minutes, than yeah he could. I mean if Hamilton can do it, it can't be that hard. They are average numbers. Man you guys kill me. I'm glad I don't see the basketball world through a smeared lens. Let me guess, you thought LaRon Dendy was good too.
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Per 30's

Booker

8.5 pts/7.4 rebs/0.5ast/2.5TO/1.9blk/50%FG/58%FT/4.9Fouls

Hamilton

12.6 pts/7.0reb/1.4ast/1.7TO/1.5blk/51%FG/80%FT/2.8Fouls



Their sophomore year stats with their previous teams are even more telling. Hamilton is clearly the better player.
 
jahfg said:
11 and 6 while shooting over 80% from the foul line are not average numbers. That is beyond stupid. They aren't great, but they certainly aren't average. No one saying he is an all-american. He's a solid role player with size that could help out most teams.
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Well if it is not great, then what is it? I call it average. I don't think he would be a solid role player on our current team. White and Gibson would probably foul him out, and he wouldn't even have a chance to shoot his 80% free throw percentage. Clearly you aren't going to convince me otherwise, and I'm not going to dissuade you from your love of Hamilton. Feel free to continue calling me names though, I can take it, I just look at the source.
 
CloneIce said:
Can we please end this ridiculous internet myth already! Dumbest thing I have ever seen anyone take offense to. He literally said "haha" at a post from Staiger making fun of Mcdermott for leaving ISU.... that means nothing! Sorry, that wasn't immature or mature, it was absolutely a meaningless laugh between friends.

I am not sure how he could have left in an "honorable" way... he did not trash Gmac or the program on the way out the door which he surely could have. The whole "closer to home" thing is hilarious, but obviously it was just a canned excuse he used to avoid having to talk bad about his former coach.
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Right. It was certainly a lot nicer than most of us have kidded about McDermott.

The lesson here is that friends should never communicate.
 
pulse said:
Well if it is not great, then what is it? I call it average. I don't think he would be a solid role player on our current team. White and Gibson would probably foul him out, and he wouldn't even have a chance to shoot his 80% free throw percentage. Clearly you aren't going to convince me otherwise, and I'm not going to dissuade you from your love of Hamilton. Feel free to continue calling me names though, I can take it, I just look at the source.
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He wouldn't be stellar or anything. Question though, because there's something I don't understand. How would White and Gibson foul him out?
 
CloneIce said:
Can we please end this ridiculous internet myth already! Dumbest thing I have ever seen anyone take offense to. He literally said "haha" at a post from Staiger making fun of Mcdermott for leaving ISU.... that means nothing! Sorry, that wasn't immature or mature, it was absolutely a meaningless laugh between friends.

I am not sure how he could have left in an "honorable" way... he did not trash Gmac or the program on the way out the door which he surely could have. The whole "closer to home" thing is hilarious, but obviously it was just a canned excuse he used to avoid having to talk bad about his former coach.
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Personally I hope Hamilton likes it at LSU just as much as I like it that he is no longer at ISU. That pretty much sums it up.
 
Gibson's

13.6PTS/7.9REB/0.3AST/1.4TO/1.0BLK/2.7FOULS 74%FG/37%FT

I think that Hamilton is a much better defender than Gibson at this point in their careers though.
 
pulse said:
Well if it is not great, then what is it? I call it average. I don't think he would be a solid role player on our current team. White and Gibson would probably foul him out, and he wouldn't even have a chance to shoot his 80% free throw percentage. Clearly you aren't going to convince me otherwise, and I'm not going to dissuade you from your love of Hamilton. Feel free to continue calling me names though, I can take it, I just look at the source.
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Martin Rancik=average
Paul Shirley=good
Marcus Fizer=great
 
CycloneErik said:
Right. It was certainly a lot nicer than most of us have kidded about McDermott.

The lesson here is that friends should never communicate.
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Lesson to be learned is that 2 kids with no loyalty shouldn't be cracking jokes about their subpar coach when they were both subpar players that helped him to achieve subpar results.
 
jahfg said:
Martin Rancik=average
Paul Shirley=good
Marcus Fizer=great
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Dude really? I'll just have to assume you're messing with me like Clones21 messes with people. I like your definitions, but if you go by that, there is no way I would put Rancik and Hamilton in the same category. To continue on what you said, which I like, I would have to add "Justin Hamilton=below average". I would however say Rancik and Shirley were pretty even. Speaking of which, if Rancik would have been healthy we would have won the national championship, but I digress...

I find it interesting that you put Paul Shirley as good, because I figured you to be one of those people who back then complained about him, while I was one of the guys defending him.
 
Cyclonestate78 said:
Lesson to be learned is that 2 kids with no loyalty shouldn't be cracking jokes about their subpar coach when they were both subpar players that helped him to achieve subpar results.
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When did Hamilton crack a joke? He said "haha." You can untwist your panties, apparently you've been angry at him for two years over something that didn't happen.

And Staiger wasn't exactly kicking Gmac's dog either. I think the lesson is: if you are oversensitive and easily offended, you probably shouldn't read other people's conversations of Facebook.
 
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Martin Rancik (when healthy-which was rare) is waaaaay better than Hamilton.
 
Face it...if Ham was still on the team many folks on this site would be complaining even if he had those numbers here. We seem to be unhappy much of the time with our players and coaches.

Having witnessed Ham in several practice sessions (hardest working person on the floor always) I would welcome his contribution. His hustle might be the spark we need.
 
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He was on his way to be a good player here, and he will do very well at LSU. Averaging 13 and 7 and the guy was a really good defender, plus he was 7'0. Look around you, 7 footers that can move don't grow on trees.

Hamilton was a good player here and is at LSU, people that don't see that don't know anything about basketball and have immediately discredited themselves.

Better or worse than SO and SO is not relevant. The point is he was a good player, 7'0, mobile for that size, and was a big loss for the program. To suggest otherwise reveals ignorance of the game.
 
A loss, but not a huge loss...

He still had a lot of work to do to improve his game...He was not a physical presence down low, and struggled to finish around the rim. For being ~6'11, he was a weak player.

Good for him that he is doing well in the SEC and playing closer to home.....
 
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