Superlatives: The best upsets of 2011 - Dr. Saturday - NCAAFÂ Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Still getting love from that win!
Still getting love from that win!
ISU over OSU Yahoo Sports #1 Upset of 2011
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Did you bother to read the article? Basically another article saying Oklahoma State completely stepped on their d***, and that it in no shape way or form should have ever lost to a team as bad as Iowa State.
Jeez. I didn't take it like that. They said we were .500. Any press is good press. We have to be consistently in and winning bowl games until we can completely change our "loser" image. Do you think the article is going to say "oh yeah, Iowa State has a really high performing defence and shouldn't have been 28 point underdogs"?
Thanks for the article. I enjoyed reading about the upsets.
And....?
They were 10-0 and thought to be one of the best in the country. Not sure how good you think ISU is, but beating the best in the country is a pretty big upset. What would you like them to say? They were beat by an equally good team?
"All because the No. 2 team in the nation couldn't finish off a .500 outfit that opened the conference schedule with four consecutive losses by double digits"
" the Cowboys yielded 24 consecutive points in the second half and overtime to an offense that came in averaging just 24 points per game, fewest in the conference."
I know they are speaking the truth in both statements, but both seem to me to have been written in the article in a way that really made the loss seem completely unjustified.
Terrible reading comprehension on your part.
"Instead, with a stunning rally out of a 24-7 hole, the most unlikely spoiler the BCS has ever produced may have stuck a dagger in the system as we know it."
The message in that upset is "Iowa State defeats the BCS."
You really have to project a lot of insecurities to get to your interpretation.
Should they have? It's not called an "upset" for no reason. I love the upset as much as any other Cyclone fan but OSU should not have lost that game.
Sometimes I swear Cyclone fans look for the slightest slight in everything just to have something to ***** about...
And....?
They were 10-0 and thought to be one of the best in the country. Not sure how good you think ISU is, but beating the best in the country is a pretty big upset. What would you like them to say? They were beat by an equally good team?
Not at all, but maybe point out that Iowa State won the game, not just that the Cowboys lost it all by themselves.
What part of "stuck a dagger" did you miss?
I, too, am increasingly weary, not of criticism of actual problems (turnovers, point-kicking, penalties, red zone neutrality, etc.) but of knee jerk negativity with no roots in reality (national "disrespect," Tom Herman "unwanted," "undeserved" post-season honors...the list goes on).
If I didn't know any better, I'd think those complainers have joined a cult headed up by Rob Howe. Holy cow he had a weep-fest yesterday on the radio.
My bad for posting my opinion on a message board, I forgot that means I have to agree with what everybody else thinks.:skeptical:
You have every right to post your opinion. And they have every right to post their opinion that your opinion sucks and is way off base...:spinny:
No. Your bad for posting a baseless, kneejerk opinion on a message board. Here, let me show how to do it:
"It's nice to get some national attention, but this isn't where I want us to be right now. I honestly think that, had Barnett replaced Jantz earlier in the year, we would have won more games, and the upset against Okie State wouldn't have seemed so out of the blue. This team was stout, and surprising, and, even though they exceeded expectations, I honestly don't think they 'overachieved.' They were a good 6-6 team that, had the offense not shot itself in the foot so often during the transition from Jantz to Barnett, could have been 8-4. Now that would have gotten even better press."
You don't have to agree (as I don't even agree with the above quote). You just don't need to throw annoying complaint bombs that don't contribute anything to the OPs news.
It's easy.
It's not that they're saying OSU shot themselves in the foot against us. I'd be fine with that. They should have stuck with just their first paragraph, maybe adding in the sentence which talks about us being a mediocre .500 team. The rest of the second paragraph is that same old SEC bias which says OSU was never good enough to be #2 to begin with. They pull out that tired old "No Defense League" BS that people from the B1G and SEC always say about the Big 12. Personally, I'm upset for OSU and the Big 12, not so much for ISU.
"To the extent that Oklahoma State lived by the turnover en route to its 10-0 start, it died by the turnover against the Cyclones — and by a defense that was ultimately every bit as porous as its critics suggested. One week after shutting out Texas Tech, the Cowboys yielded 24 consecutive points in the second half and overtime to an offense that came in averaging just 24 points per game, fewest in the conference. When the turnover margin finally flipped on the nation's stingiest defense, all that was left was the unit looking every bit like one yielding 445 yards per game."
Everybody KNEW going into that game that OSU's defense was horrible. It shouldn't surprise anyone that an analysis of the game would include people suggesting that OSU's inability to play defense would come back and bite them in the arse. It's not the slight at ISU that some ISU fans want to make it out to be.
I never really thought of it this way until I read that story, but in many ways ISU could be the school that brings down the abomination that is the BCS as we know it. That's pretty sweet.
I think had we beaten KSU, it wouldn't have seemed so outlandish. In the end though, we ended 6-6, 3-6 in the conference. Granted, the conference was tough this year and we finished better than anyone outside of this board picked us to, but without that win, we aren't going bowling. So, it was a pretty big upset.
As an insider I know what 6-6 means to this team. To the rest of the world though, we are at best an average football team.
Hey, I agree there are some backhanded compliments in there too. But Iowa State has earned the reputation as a bad football program overall for the last 20 or so years. The part I liked most was the part I bolded, that this victory could have toppled the BCS as we know it. Not manyin the country knows how good of program we are becoming, and how much depth and talent we have compared to a few short years ago. They will though.:yes: