*** Official Northern Colorado vs. ISU Game Thread***

[clonedude]

I hope these two things don't get him in trouble:

1- Doesn't see value in playing D. I hope that is not the case, but I'm starting to think there's a chance of this.

2- He's too calm/nice to "motivate" kids to hustle defensively and rebounding the ball. I pray that isn't the case.

That laid back style is probably much more common in the NBA and can work there because the players are all professional, older and more mature. With 18-20 y/o's it might not be as effective.

Some truth to that I think. You don't get in the face of Michael Jordan if you're an NBA coach... or you get yourself fired.

But Fred needs to get on these guys. At least in timeouts or something. Quit coddling them like children or something. They play with no hustle, desire, or passion whatsoever. Just sit back there and launch 3's all night. How lazy is that?

I think we were picked to finish 9th in the Big 12 for a reason.

Thank God we don't play Creighton. They'd light us up big time.

 

[tee1up]

Hey... let's give him an award. He got a single double against Northern Colorado. Big deal.

This team is lazy, undisciplined, plays dumb (like giving up a conventional 3 pt play near the end so UNC could cut the lead to 2 possessions again), and no defense.

We are a team that jacks up tons of 3's and that's all we are right now. Got absolutely OWNED in the paint (yes, that's you Royce), play with no passion or hustle, and no defense.

If I played against us, I'd press the heck out of us. We have nobody that can dribble or pass it up against the press IMO.

We are VERY lucky we were hitting 3's tonight. If we shot like we did against Drake, we'd have lost by double digits tonight easily.

I've been a huge fan for about 38 years, but I have to say this team is hard to like. They stand around, walk to the huddle, don't appear interested. It was a joke when the put the 2-2-1 press on us. They really didn't even put that much pressure on us, just kind of stood there. And we didn't attack it one time. We walk the ball up the floor almost every time. The nights we don't make 15 3's we will get run out of the gym.

I'm not a Duke fan, but just watch there players. They call timeout, every player runs to the bench, all eyes on Coach K. They bust their *** all the time, or they don't play.

There is no bigger fan of Freddie than me, but I couldn't take the players attitude. If someone came to the bench and didn't hustle and pay attention I would bench them. I just can't stand watching us walk it up, 5 guys standing around, and someone finally shooting a fade-away 3.

A school record in 3's,and a winless Northern Colorado team takes us to the wire AT HOME.

Bad job by the fans as well, I know students are gone but that crowd looked really bad on TV. Very frustrating team to watch, hope Fred can light a fire.

 

[clonedude]

Next 4 games will tell us a ton about this team...

Providence, Rice, UNI, Michigan. Gotta find a way to go 3-1 there (or 4-0 if you can upset Michigan).

I think we'll be fortunate to come out of this 4 game stretch 2-2. 1-3 looks more realistic IMO.

Shooting 3's won't come as easy when we're not at home. Just look at the Drake game. We will live and die on our 3 pt % this year. Not something good to try to rely on night in and night out.

Fred might be in over his head. He needs coaching help big time! We sure miss Lutz I'm afraid.

 

[CycloneYoda]

23 assists, 8 turnovers


Only stat i care about for this game. No. Colorado had no intention of playing defense, and either did we. So we had a trackmeet shootout.

Probably won't see ISU shoot this many 3's in a game for the rest of the year.



For those who don't see Hoiberg as a successful coach do not know anything about the man. He is good at everything he does. He gets better at everything he does. He succeeds at everything he does.

 

[isuno1fan]

I want him to succeed badly but I just don't think Freddy will succeed at a head coach. Just not his personality.

Fred succeeds at everything...give it time

 

[tee1up]

I would love it if Eric will ask FH about how he is using Scotty. The offense just stagnates when he controls the ball..he is 35 feet out, dribbling around, and throws the most lazy passes to guys that aren't even open or trying to score. I think to be successful he needs to be moving, coming off screens, etc.

 

[Prone2Clone]

I've been a huge fan for about 38 years, but I have to say this team is hard to like. They stand around, walk to the huddle, don't appear interested. It was a joke when the put the 2-2-1 press on us. They really didn't even put that much pressure on us, just kind of stood there. And we didn't attack it one time. We walk the ball up the floor almost every time. The nights we don't make 15 3's we will get run out of the gym.

I'm not a Duke fan, but just watch there players. They call timeout, every player runs to the bench, all eyes on Coach K. They bust their *** all the time, or they don't play.

There is no bigger fan of Freddie than me, but I couldn't take the players attitude. If someone came to the bench and didn't hustle and pay attention I would bench them. I just can't stand watching us walk it up, 5 guys standing around, and someone finally shooting a fade-away 3.

A school record in 3's,and a winless Northern Colorado team takes us to the wire AT HOME.

Bad job by the fans as well, I know students are gone but that crowd looked really bad on TV. Very frustrating team to watch, hope Fred can light a fire.

Well said.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Clonedude is a troll. He never has anything positive to say. Go try to find all of his positive posts about our win in football Friday. You won't find many, if any. When we lose he starts threads with long lists of negatives and how we suck. Now we are deciding that FH is "in over his head". JFC go join a Hawk board.

 

[Palmer]

Yeah... I'm starting to think that the players are playing with the same kind of passion as their head coach... non-existant.

haha...big doosh as always. Nothing ever changes with you clonedude.

 

[clonedude]

I've been a huge fan for about 38 years, but I have to say this team is hard to like. They stand around, walk to the huddle, don't appear interested. It was a joke when the put the 2-2-1 press on us. They really didn't even put that much pressure on us, just kind of stood there. And we didn't attack it one time. We walk the ball up the floor almost every time. The nights we don't make 15 3's we will get run out of the gym.

I'm not a Duke fan, but just watch there players. They call timeout, every player runs to the bench, all eyes on Coach K. They bust their *** all the time, or they don't play.

There is no bigger fan of Freddie than me, but I couldn't take the players attitude. If someone came to the bench and didn't hustle and pay attention I would bench them. I just can't stand watching us walk it up, 5 guys standing around, and someone finally shooting a fade-away 3.

A school record in 3's,and a winless Northern Colorado team takes us to the wire AT HOME.

Bad job by the fans as well, I know students are gone but that crowd looked really bad on TV. Very frustrating team to watch, hope Fred can light a fire.

Best post of the night! Good job.

I know there are a lot of Duke haters out there, but I love watching Duke play basketball. Year in and year out, they all hustle their rear ends off.... every single one of them. Because Coach K demands it. Duke takes a ton of pride in their defense too. I love watching them slap the floor as the opponent dribbles it up the court. Duke personifies intensity on both ends of the floor.

I can't imagine that Paul Rhoads could even stomach to watch our MBB team play? It would have to drive him completely insane. Where's the passion? Where's the hustle? Where's the intensity?

And here I thought Fred looked like he went into halftime all ticked off, but yet we come out of halftime and immediately UNC cuts it from 16 to 9 right off the bat. And Fred looks like he couldn't really care any less? Calls timeout and simply talks to them, while most of the players don't look like they're even listening to him.

VERY hard team to watch... and even cheer for. I almost found myself hoping UNC would win this game tonight because of the effort that their players were giving out there. They really deserved it. Outplayed us really. But we hit a team record on 3's, and pulled it out.

 

[gocubs2118]

Since when does defensive effort require chemistry? I didn't say defensive execution, but effort. Getting a hand in the shooters face. Moving your feet on defense. Fighting through/around screens. Hustling for rebounds.
Those don't require chemistry. Any unlazy person can do those things. This team just looks unmotivated and lazy on defense.

Allen said the main problem with the defense tonight was communication, and that has a lot to do with chemistry. Like everything with this team, they will get better as they play more together.

No need for everyone to get their undies in a bundle after this game. Are there problems? Obviously but they are all correctable. Calm the **** down everyone.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

haha...big doosh as always. Nothing ever changes with you clonedude.

His last positive post was on November 12th. Look it up. And the post was talking to a Hawk fan about how the Hawks suck. LITERALLY everything he posts is a negative. There isn't one post in his recent history that looks remotely like "CPR does a good job getting results out of low talent players" or even one single "Nice throw by Barnett on the TD". Not a single one. He just b****** constantly.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Allen said the main problem with the defense tonight was communication, and that has a lot to do with chemistry. Like everything with this team, they will get better as they play more together.

No need for everyone to get their undies in a bundle after this game. Are there problems? Obviously but they are all correctable. Calm the **** down everyone.

I realize this team is lacking communication and I know that requires chemistry.
But any person that isn't blind can see that this team also lacks hustle on defense. Hustle does not require chemistry.

 

[Wesley]

Can somebody tell me why our defense is so bad?

We have 5 Luccas playing.

 

[CYVADER]

rhoadhoused-the ignore list is your friend. add clonedude, clones21, and clonomanic to it like i did months ago. and to you others, quit quoting them-if you quote them, i have to read their dribble despite them being on my ignore list!!!

 

[gocubs2118]

I realize this team is lacking communication and I know that requires chemistry.
But any person that isn't blind can see that this team also lacks hustle on defense. Hustle does not require chemistry.

Hustle? Seems like Royce was hustling when he was blocking those shots, same with Booker. Just because Royce makes everything look so effortless, doesn't mean he's not hustling.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Hustle? Seems like Royce was hustling when he was blocking those shots, same with Booker. Just because Royce makes everything look so effortless, doesn't mean he's not hustling.

Who else hustled?
You can't honestly think the team hustled tonight on defense, do you?

 

[clonedude]

haha...big doosh as always. Nothing ever changes with you clonedude.

Instead of just calling people names, like a 2nd grader would do, why don't you explain to me what's wrong with my post?

Does the team play with passion in your opinion? Does Fred coach with passion? What our your thoughts? I'd like to know, because just calling me a doosh tells me that you just aren't all that intelligent.

Oh.... wait.... I suppose it's illegal to question the almighty Fred Hoiberg, right? But if it were Wayne Morgan or GMac out there tonight it would be perfectly ok to question his coaching ability, right?

Stop it. Quit acting like a 4 year old. It's ok to question Fred Hoiberg. He was an all-time Cyclone great on the basketball court... no doubt about that. But that doesn't automatically make him a great coach.

I'm not saying he isn't a great coach, we don't know yet, but it's perfectly ok to ask questions. It won't hurt Fred's feelings. Grow up.

 

[Clonefan32]

These guys better develop a sense of team quickly or we may be in trouble. While I think Fred can yell and scream and hopefully improve the hustle, you can't yell and scream and create chemistry. I trust that Fred knows the personality of his players and team better than any of us and is working with them in the best way he seems fit, but I can't help but wish he would go Coach Rhoads on those guys and get them motivated.

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Instead of just calling people names, like a 2nd grader would do, why don't you explain to me what's wrong with my post?

Does the team play with passion in your opinion? Does Fred coach with passion? What our your thoughts? I'd like to know, because just calling me a doosh tells me that you just aren't all that intelligent.

Oh.... wait.... I suppose it's illegal to question the almighty Fred Hoiberg, right? But if it were Wayne Morgan or GMac out there tonight it would be perfectly ok to question his coaching ability, right?

Stop it. Quit acting like a 4 year old. It's ok to question Fred Hoiberg. He was an all-time Cyclone great on the basketball court... no doubt about that. But that doesn't automatically make him a great coach.

I'm not saying he isn't a great coach, we don't know yet, but it's perfectly ok to ask questions. It won't hurt Fred's feelings. Grow up.

It isn't that you posted something negative. It's that all you post is negative stuff. And you say it in absolute ways. "Fred is in over his head, he won't be a successful coach" looks insanely negative compared to something like "Fred needs to get the team motivated to play harder D". All you do is ***** and moan and it gets extremely old.