*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Jon Miller (yes, I broke down and I'm listening today) is obviously high on lsd, angel dust, and meth right now. Texas, ND, Missouri and ISU to Big Ten theory???

.....and he prefaced it by saying it came from a Northwestern message board poster.....so take it for what it's worth......he's just trying to get the radio listeners talking so they want to listen tomorrow (which is his job).
 
Jon Miller (yes, I broke down and I'm listening today) is obviously high on lsd, angel dust, and meth right now. Texas, ND, Missouri and ISU to Big Ten theory???

Ah heck, this whole thing is so crazy that how can anyone define who is and isn't thinking rationally. All bets are off if you ask me.
 
No comments since 9:30 last night?!!! So what's the latest that anybody is hearing on realignment? It sounds like OU is more than ever inclined to seek PAC 12 membership - along with Okie State of course.

I still think that the Big 12 remaining together in some semblance is I-State's best hope. I sure hope Pollard has got something figured out.

Anybody know anything new?
 
Jon Miller (yes, I broke down and I'm listening today) is obviously high on lsd, angel dust, and meth right now. Texas, ND, Missouri and ISU to Big Ten theory???
This is not so far fetched. There is 1 requirement that the Big 10 has that no other conference has, so that limits the number of schools the Big 10 can go after...
 
Jon Miller (yes, I broke down and I'm listening today) is obviously high on lsd, angel dust, and meth right now. Texas, ND, Missouri and ISU to Big Ten theory???

I didn't listen to the broadcast, but there could be something to it.

Money: UT and ND take care of the financial aspects of it. That could be enough to leverage the BTN across much of the country. That could also be enough to basically max out Tier 1 TV money. You can only show so many tier 1 games per week, with ND, Michigan, OSU, Nebraska, ND, and Penn St already in the league, adding another football power may overcrowd the field a bit too much without much monetary gain. It may be a little shot to our pride, but maybe the big boys would like to add a couple punching bags to the mix to protect their place at the top of the totem pole.

Academics: If there are any residual issues/fallout from Nebraska being added, this could counter that as all 4 of these schools would be stronger academically.

Geography and Travel/Rivalries: UT may be a bit of an outsider here, but Mizzou, ISU, and ND would all be easy travel for Big 10 schools and would all come into the league with rivalries already in place. After the marque top 20 matchups with the name schools, these rivalry games would be the next thing of value to fill up the BTN with games of interest (stuff like ISU/Iowa, Mizzou/Illinois that typically wouldn't be 1st tier stuff). UT isn't as great of a fit here, but for UT you make some exceptions.

Other Sports - I'll admit I don't know as much on this, but it would seem that all 4 schools bring some solid programs outside of football that could fill the airwaves for the other 8 months of the year.

So my big question here is the LHN. Did Miller say anything about that? So many of the Big 12 issues seem to be around the fact that they won't let that thing go. If that is still the case, I don't see the B1G accepting that. That seems to me to be the biggest hurdle to this theory, followed closely by how do you convince ND to join up and drop any TV deal aspirations of their own?
 
People that want to blame the LHN are ********. I know that "********" is not PC but it is accurate. We're talking about 3rd tier rights. ISU has had a larger 3rd tier package than Texas has had. There was a great article about it the other day...yes it was from the Texas perspective but still made a number of good points. What if Learfield decided to do the same thing LHN was doing? We'd be ecstatic. Florida has already done this with Sun Sports or whatever the name is.

Edit: Here's the article: Longhorn Network and Delusion

And revenues from a few years ago: School-Specific Broadcasting Revenue «


"Last week the Associated Press referred to the LHN as the “$300 million Longhorn Network.” That’s wrong. If you’re going to put a price tag on it, then a more accurate figure would be in the neighborhood of $1 billion, since that’s roughly how much ESPN has apparently committed to the enterprise over the 20-year base term of the Agreement.

The $300 million refers to what’s called the “minimum annual guaranteed royalty” payments to UT and IMG (unless otherwise necessary, we’ll refer to them collectively as UT). UT gets $10.98 million in the first year, with a 3% bump each year thereafter (the aggregate of those payments is actually a little less than $300 million). Here again, this is what you see if you’re only looking at it from UT’s perspective. The Agreement provides an annual budget estimate of $26 million, which comprises $15 million for production and $11 million for overhead. It also provides an estimated annual escalator for those two elements at 3% and 4% respectively. Annualize that over the base term, add it to the aggregate MAGR, and voila – three commas."


source: http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/...rt-i-inside-the-utespn-longhorn-network-deal/


Oh, as for your comments: look in the mirror and describe what you see.
 
This is not so far fetched. There is 1 requirement that the Big 10 has that no other conference has, so that limits the number of schools the Big 10 can go after...

Actually it is far fetched. In the big10's expansion plan, we rank just slightly ahead of Case Western Reserve University, but behind Pitt, KU, Mizzu, Duke, UNC, Maryland, Tulane and Virginia. At least we came in tied with Rice for 24th so if the big10 expands to 24 we've probably got an in.
 
AAU membership.

iirc, ND is not a member.

I believe there is also a requirement that the new school be in an existing B1G state or a bordering state. Texas doesn't meet that requirement while ND doesn't have the AAU membership.

That said, UT and ND are the two biggest fish in this whole realignment dance, so if you have a chance to land them both, you bend the rules to do so.
 
Why is this plane arriving in Ames from Oakland? Two possibilities...Pac12 is talking to us, or Wells Fargo visiting the Ames branch (but why would they spend that kind of money to visit one branch in Ames??)

FlightAware > N1127M

:wideeyed:

Shouldn't we get a few thousand fans together in ISU gear out to the Ames airport tonight with face paint, posters and maybe the band to welcome this plane?!?!

Wouldn't that be hilarious when a group of Wells Fargo bankers gets off the plane?
 
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