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No program at OU is facing a tv ban or the death penalty. Our hoops program is going to lose a few ships because Tiny Gallon had agent contact. They cleared Capel of any wrong doing on that
 
CycloneErik said:
Always panic. As long as there is a tweet, always panic.
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Kent Brockman: Hordes of panicky people seem to be evacuating the town for some unknown reason. Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Professor: Mmm, yes I would, Kent.
 
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Al_4_State said:
Jealousy of Texas.

A&M and OU are ****** because they set up an unequal Big 12, with intent to capitalize on it, but were not able to, so they threaten to leave.
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I think this is the short summary.

I think A&M, OU, Texas and Nebraska all had sights on doing what Texas has actually accomplished. I understand the anger but channel it into determination to beat Texas - not act like some kind of emotional, middle-school girls. I think A&M has the little brother thing going in a huge way, but frankly I expect more from OU.

Cheers
 
jdoggivjc said:
Apparently you missed the rest of my post. I'm well aware of the geography argument. But, if we're willing to join the MWC as a worst-case scenario, which has roughly the same geographic footprint as the Pac 1X, why shouldn't we be willing to join the Pac 1X when the money from that conference would be far greater than either the MWC or Big East, and it would put to bed the idea of ISU being left out of a BCS conference permanently? The Big East can't offer us that as it's just waiting to be picked apart by several conferences as well, and there's no guarantee that ISU would be going to one of those.
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I read the rest of your argument, but the choices for ISU right now are not limited to the worst case MWC scenario and the the Pac-12.

The Big East can't offer Pac-12 money right this minute, but if a number of Big 12 teams joined the Big East, the next TV deal would likely be quite lucrative. And if the money is good and the power distribution is fairly equal, that conference would be stable, with better travel logistics. Why would anyone leave?

Just because OU wants to go to the Pac-12 doesn't mean it is the present best option for ISU. If it is determined by ISU administrators that ISU could not sustain long-term membership in the Pac-12, then that option has to go down to the bottom, just above the options for non-AQ conferences, and ISU has to try and find something else, most likely with the Big East. How horrible would it be to turn down a Big East offer for the Pac-12, only to have to withdraw from the Pac-12 in five years?

On the other hand, If ISU thinks they can sustain long-term membership in the Pac-12 with no adverse effects on the AD or student athletes, then it would seem wise to further pursue a move to the Pac-12.
 
Cyclophile1 said:
I think this is the short summary.

I think A&M, OU, Texas and Nebraska all had sights on doing what Texas has actually accomplished. I understand the anger but channel it into determination to beat Texas - not act like some kind of emotional, middle-school girls. I think A&M has the little brother thing going in a huge way, but frankly I expect more from OU.

Cheers
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Which is why I can't understand why they don't work together to bring equal revenue sharing to the Big 12 and prefer running off to other conferences that already have it.

It's like they feel they are above playing the weaker Big 12 schools, but they forget that every other conference has extremely similar weaker schools too.
 
Boomer said:
No program at OU is facing a tv ban or the death penalty. Our hoops program is going to lose a few ships because Tiny Gallon had agent contact. They cleared Capel of any wrong doing on that
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From August 2, 2011:
Oklahoma Sooners admit two major violations, seeks two more years probations - ESPN

NORMAN, Okla. -- Oklahoma admitted Thursday that its men's basketball program committed two major rules violations and asked the NCAA for leniency despite its second serious infractions case in the last five years.

Under NCAA bylaws, a "repeat violator" can face a minimum of having the sport dropped for one or two seasons with no scholarships provided for two seasons. The NCAA infractions committee has the authority to override such a designation.

In a summary disposition report put together jointly with NCAA investigators, the school conceded it does qualify under the description of repeat violator -- having two major infractions cases within five years in the same sport -- but said previous cases show those penalties "are not appropriate in this case."
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Conceding that the program qualifies as a repeat violator and asking for leniency sounds pretty serious to me. But it is OU, so the complementary slap-on-the wrist will likely apply...
 
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I don't get Oklahomas obsession with wanting to be in the Pac 12. You'd better believe that Colorados president is going to have nothing to do with them.

Honestly, if Oklahoma pulls an A&M, and the Pac-12 makes the same conditions that the SEC made. I doubt anyone is going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Gorm said:
I don't get Oklahomas obsession with wanting to be in the Pac 12. You'd better believe that Colorados president is going to have nothing to do with them.

Honestly, if Oklahoma pulls an A&M, and the Pac-12 makes the same conditions that the SEC made. I doubt anyone is going anywhere anytime soon.
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A lot of ifs...Still thinking it has more to do with posturing by OU.
 
I don't think it is posturing when you approve to seek membership and then go and actually seek membership with the pac 12. If they were just talking about it then I agree, but if they are taking action, then it is serious and Iowa State needs to hope it can get into the big east.
 
Gorm said:
I don't get Oklahomas obsession with wanting to be in the Pac 12. You'd better believe that Colorados president is going to have nothing to do with them.

Honestly, if Oklahoma pulls an A&M, and the Pac-12 makes the same conditions that the SEC made. I doubt anyone is going anywhere anytime soon.
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I think OU has one of two strategies in mind. 1. They intend to go to the PAC 12 as they feel the Big 12 is beyond repair. In which case they probably feel 99% certain they have the votes. or 2. This is a ploy to stay in the Big 12 and they need the turn down from the PAC 12 to assure having their fans united to the Big 12. So as to not have them constantly badgering to leave as happened to A&M. In which case Rebecacy is accurate and a deal was cut with Texas over the weekend, to save the Big 12. I hope for the latter but feel the odds may favor the former.
 
rholtgraves said:
I don't think it is posturing when you approve to seek membership and then go and actually seek membership with the pac 12. If they were just talking about it then I agree, but if they are taking action, then it is serious and Iowa State needs to hope it can get into the big east.
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Do we actually have a reliable source about this OU regents' meeting right now?

Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. We need some solid sources either way before we interpret anything.
 
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