FB Facility Update
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For comparison's sake (numbers from 2009, may have changed since then):
A&M: The McFerrin Center is 191,000 square feet and cost $35.6 million, but that includes the Gilliam Indoor Track Center. The football side is 75,000 square feet.
Baylor: The Baylor football team will be able to practice this fall in the 74,000-square foot Jay and Jenny Allison Indoor Practice Facility, which cost $11 million.
Oklahoma: The Everest Indoor Training Center is 74,000 square feet and opened in 2002.
Oklahoma State: Its $50 million facility is on hold.
Texas: “The Bubble” was built in 2002. It cost $4 million and is just over 71,000 square feet.
Texas Tech: The Red Raiders don’t have an indoor facility. The school’s athletic training center, called “The Bubble,” hosts the indoor track and field teams. The football team does use it during inclement weather.
Iowa State: The $10 million, 92,000 square foot Steve and Debbie Bergstrom Indoor Training Facility opened in 2004. Softball and soccer also use. (Add new 20 million, 50K square feet facility)
Kansas: The Anschutz Pavilion is 40,000 square feet and opened in 1999 and several teams use it.
Kansas State: It has a 94,000-square foot facility, which will receive renovations.
Missouri: The Daniel J. Devine Indoor Practice Facility cost $12 million and opened in 1998.
The indoor football facility race continues | AggieSports.com | Bryan/College Station, TX
A&M: The McFerrin Center is 191,000 square feet and cost $35.6 million, but that includes the Gilliam Indoor Track Center. The football side is 75,000 square feet.
Baylor: The Baylor football team will be able to practice this fall in the 74,000-square foot Jay and Jenny Allison Indoor Practice Facility, which cost $11 million.
Oklahoma: The Everest Indoor Training Center is 74,000 square feet and opened in 2002.
Oklahoma State: Its $50 million facility is on hold.
Texas: “The Bubble” was built in 2002. It cost $4 million and is just over 71,000 square feet.
Texas Tech: The Red Raiders don’t have an indoor facility. The school’s athletic training center, called “The Bubble,” hosts the indoor track and field teams. The football team does use it during inclement weather.
Iowa State: The $10 million, 92,000 square foot Steve and Debbie Bergstrom Indoor Training Facility opened in 2004. Softball and soccer also use. (Add new 20 million, 50K square feet facility)
Kansas: The Anschutz Pavilion is 40,000 square feet and opened in 1999 and several teams use it.
Kansas State: It has a 94,000-square foot facility, which will receive renovations.
Missouri: The Daniel J. Devine Indoor Practice Facility cost $12 million and opened in 1998.
The indoor football facility race continues | AggieSports.com | Bryan/College Station, TX
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Yeah, I was half kidding when I wrote that, but I do wonder what in the heck they'll do with the Olsen and Jacobson buildings once the FB team moves out.
A&M is building another $6million 18,000sf facility next year (ready for 2012):
http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/big-xii-conference/121357-m-adding-new-fb-training-facility.html
The program is all of the stuff the client wants, x number conference rooms, x number offices etc.
Schematic design is the first iteration of the design including the programmatic elements at their desired square footage.
It can get whittled down or expanded from there and is more finely tuned.
Most likely it will be close to schematic design but probably not the same.
I hope someday they tear down the Olsen building. Maybe when they bowl in the south end-zone, they can house the visiting team and maintenance there.
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On another note, JP thinks we are going to have a $70 million revenue by 2022. In 2010 we had $40 million.
I've heard that the FB offices in the Jake will be opened up to make some sort of hall of fame display. Not sure what they'll do with the Olsen Building other than we've heard they want to give the ticket office more space. That still leaves the weightroom, athletic training/rehab, the equipment room and all of the positional meeting rooms open. I also wonder if they'll keep using the auditorium in the Jake for press conferences.
Anyone have an idea what the current weightroom has for square footage?
So if you count the new building and the Bergstrom we have 151, 000 sq ft. Are all the sq ft listed there both offices and training facility. I'm guessing Texas has a facility besides the bubble.
11 years, not as far as you think. 11 years ago I think ISU had a budget of 19 million. Our budget increased 21 million over the last 11 years and is for casted to increase 30 million over the next. That is a good size increase, especially when you consider that Washington State still has a budget of around 19 million. We are doing a lot better than some BCS schools.
I don't know how many people looked at the anticipated revenues portion of that graph, but you can see guesstimates about future TV contracts...
Looks like Pollard is anticipating more or less a 5% increase in budget every year. Which at first might seem pretty confident. But if you consider that success and donations would seemingly have no place to go but up (with increased football and basketball success as long as the Big 12 stays in tact) then this seems pretty conservative. Probably the increase is due to the increasing payouts from Fox on the 2nd tier rights every year.
Notice the one year they anticipate a difference in revenue is F16-17, where the budget jumps from 53 mil to 60 mil. Why 2016??? ABC contract due. He's estimating about a 7 million jump where as without that you'd probably have a 2 million jump. That's 5 million extra for ISU, which would translate to 50 million extra/yr for the Big 12. That turns the $60 million/yr ABC contract to $110 million/yr.
With the seemingly exponential rising costs of TV contracts (see Pac 12), you'd think that estimate is being conservative.
Those numbers look great, but I can't imagine what those estimates would be from the Big East or a non-AQ conference. Let's hope for the Big 12 to stick around for the length of those projections and beyond! I don't think its a coincidence those estimates stopped with 2022. College football Armagedon is set to begin then with basically everybody's contract coming due around those years more or less.
Looks like Pollard is anticipating more or less a 5% increase in budget every year. Which at first might seem pretty confident. But if you consider that success and donations would seemingly have no place to go but up (with increased football and basketball success as long as the Big 12 stays in tact) then this seems pretty conservative. Probably the increase is due to the increasing payouts from Fox on the 2nd tier rights every year.
Notice the one year they anticipate a difference in revenue is F16-17, where the budget jumps from 53 mil to 60 mil. Why 2016??? ABC contract due. He's estimating about a 7 million jump where as without that you'd probably have a 2 million jump. That's 5 million extra for ISU, which would translate to 50 million extra/yr for the Big 12. That turns the $60 million/yr ABC contract to $110 million/yr.
With the seemingly exponential rising costs of TV contracts (see Pac 12), you'd think that estimate is being conservative.
Those numbers look great, but I can't imagine what those estimates would be from the Big East or a non-AQ conference. Let's hope for the Big 12 to stick around for the length of those projections and beyond! I don't think its a coincidence those estimates stopped with 2022. College football Armagedon is set to begin then with basically everybody's contract coming due around those years more or less.
There wasn't mention of a rec area for the players or anything like that. A lot of schools have these and it's basically a glorified man cave, but for a whole football team. Maybe that's what we put in the Olsen building in the future? Doubt it though.
That's a good idea. I really like what ISU did with the new basketball practice facility (pool table, flat screen, video games etc). Probably makes a good impression on recruits & helps w/team unity. Hopefully part of the new practice facility or Olsen building can be dedicated towards a similar space.
Things are moving in the right direction. We're getting a sweet new HD videoboard this year and now the new football facility is coming in 2012. Now it will be time to focus on getting the south end finally bowled in. I'm hoping by the 2014 or 2015 season it will be reality
I agree that $110M a year is VERY conservative, given that the conference is getting $90M a year for 2nd tier rights. IMO the starting point should be $150M/yr and it wouldn't surprise me to see them get up over $200M.
Another thing to notice in that budget table, take a look at the debt service starting in FY13. It basically jumps $1M (not including the $434k from this project) and then in FY14 it jumps another $1M. That is some major debt service they are taking on. If you want to extrapolate loosely, it would be either one $80M project or two $40M projects. South Endzone and Hilton concourse?
Yeah, a players' lounge. I'm guessing that "Football Operations" means coach's offices. I would think that the staff wouldn't be doing this without everything that they want included. It would be dumb not to have a players' lounge...especially because they aren't exactly limited by space, just money.
I do wonder why they have an "Anticipated Gross Square Feet" yet there's a number for "Total Net Assignable Space" that is less. Does that mean that there's basically 15k square feet not assigned yet?
I think gross square feet is the floorprint of the building and net assignable space is space dedicated to football only. That remaining 15k is probably taken up in hallways, lobby, restrooms, closets, mechanical rooms, elevators, stairs, etc. All 15k does seem like a lot for all of that.
So, how do I buy me some of them there Athletic Facilities Revenue Bonds, Series I.S.U.?
I think a framed bond in my basement (or in the window of my tailgating truck) would be awesome.
Seriously, who buys them?
Somebody is going to be putting a lot of money into the expectation that we will be able to pay them back. And this is only one of many projects.
I think a framed bond in my basement (or in the window of my tailgating truck) would be awesome.
Seriously, who buys them?
Somebody is going to be putting a lot of money into the expectation that we will be able to pay them back. And this is only one of many projects.
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