Maybe next year, Hawkeyes.

[mikem]

As if message boards are notorious for staying on topic...

Any way you slice it, even as Iowa State fans, poking at Iowa for the off the field indiscretions has to get old. I realize that you can only internet hype your receiving corps for so long before you finally figure out that you're just putting lipstick on a pig.

Do you think that perhaps all of the deflecting was getting to the root cause of your constant blathering about Iowa's off the field problems? There isn't much to talk about regarding the Cyclones. New quarterback, not yet proven RB, and a schedule that includes 11 BCS teams = sub .500 season again this year. So I guess it makes a little sense that while ISU is sitting at home in December/January while Iowa is playing in bowls, you have to hang your hat on something...might as well be Iowa's off the field problems, and nothing regarding your own program other than feeling good about yourselves because you "did it the right way".

Aside from the rivalry, most schools in the midwest are left at a complete recruiting disadvantage each year due to the weather. So if you want to sustain any form of success, most schools will have to take a gamble on players, some more than others. While Iowa has certainly been burned by this, they are certainly a respectable team ON the field as well.

So keep trumpeting your "Honor Before Victory" rebecacy, you'll eventually (hard to believe you haven't already) figure out that it just won't get ISU very far.

Disclaimer: I am in no way supporting any actions of the players who get in trouble, but I do realize that sometimes the risk is required to get the reward.

Wow, just wow....ANOTHER gem from this bred.

You are such a hypocrite, you castigate D'antonio for how he handled a DUI, but when it comes to kirkie the piece of **** it's "well you just have to take chances"

What a joke of a "human" being, and a program with a scumbag in charge.

Since you just admitted that it is all about the wins, then we should NEVER see any of you pos on any internet forum talking **** about about another school's off the field problems. Right bred?

Now waiting for the inbred all iowa to come on and impress us with his "thoughts" on the matter. Should be entertaining to see these breds try to spin this one. Another national black eye for the u. That is two in two months.

Way to embarrass the state of iowa breds. Background checks are pretty easy to do, Oklahoma does it even TCU does it. But ol' kirkie the scum can't?

He must be the class act, you breds try to portray him as.

Oh wait, it is just that darn media being unfair to the hawks again.

 

[mikem]

I believe you. Who would know this better than a Hawk fan?

There really was no need for a jimlad there. What you said is factually correct, they are the most hypocritical fanbase in college sports.

 

[mikem]

Funny another character issue kid just committed to the Iowa State basketball team. I don't hear anyone up in arms about that. At least the kids that are getting in trouble at Iowa seem to be decent kids in high school. The kids that the Iowa State basketball team are taking are known trouble makers or have character issues.

As I said Cylent, this is a perfect example of what pos hawk fans are. They are the first ones to cast stones.

When you are being nationally embarrassed for the second time in two months, should you really shoot off your mouth?

A thinking human being wouldn't, but then these are u fans.

 

[herbicide]

Funny another character issue kid just committed to the Iowa State basketball team. I don't hear anyone up in arms about that. At least the kids that are getting in trouble at Iowa seem to be decent kids in high school. The kids that the Iowa State basketball team are taking are known trouble makers or have character issues.

What is his criminal record?

 

[Hawks]

What is his criminal record?

That is what I am saying when Iowa recruits these kids I am assuming they don't have a criminal record. This kid obviously did something wrong in order to be kicked off his team.

 

[Hawks]

As I said Cylent, this is a perfect example of what pos hawk fans are. They are the first ones to cast stones.

When you are being nationally embarrassed for the second time in two months, should you really shoot off your mouth?

A thinking human being wouldn't, but then these are u fans.

As long as Iowa keeps embarrassing Iowa State on the football field I think I will continue to shoot my mouth off.

 

[mikem]

That is what I am saying when Iowa recruits these kids I am assuming they don't have a criminal record. This kid obviously did something wrong in order to be kicked off his team.

You have no idea if this is true or not. They don't do background checks. TCU does background checks, Oklahoma even does background checks, the u and the other schools in that list don't.

Judging by the actions of all of these players, even the coaches son, they act like they aren't too worried about getting in trouble. Reiff got arrested before he ever stepped foot on the practice field.

I love the "it's just alcohol" defense too. You would figure at some point that it would be addressed, but nope.

Keep going with this, it's been pretty amusing so far.

As far as your attempt to try to deflect all of the attention off the u. It would seem that as many 2nd, 3rd, 7th chances that ol' kirkie the scum, and of course brands, gives to players, you shouldn't be upset. By your "logic" it's just giving the kid another chance.

Now when Freddie kicks off a walk on when a starter gets in trouble, then you can talk. Until then, you probably should stop.

 

[mikem]

As long as Iowa keeps embarrassing Iowa State on the football field I think I will continue to shoot my mouth off.

HAHAHA, typical response. Good thing that you had so much to do with it.

You know, it is pretty telling that most of your fellow breds don't even try to defend this stuff anymore.

Good to see that your limits are so apparent.

 

[Hawks]

You have no idea if this is true or not. They don't do background checks. TCU does background checks, Oklahoma even does background checks, the u and the other schools in that list don't.

Judging by the actions of all of these players, even the coaches son, they act like they aren't too worried about getting in trouble. Reiff got arrested before he ever stepped foot on the practice field.

I love the "it's just alcohol" defense too. You would figure at some point that it would be addressed, but nope.

Keep going with this, it's been pretty amusing so far.

As far as your attempt to try to deflect all of the attention off the u. It would seem that as many 2nd, 3rd, 7th chances that ol' kirkie the scum, and of course brands, gives to players, you shouldn't be upset. By your "logic" it's just giving the kid another chance.

Now when Freddie kicks off a walk on when a starter gets in trouble, then you can talk. Until then, you probably should stop.

Your totally right I am not upset at all. The fact is 15 of those 18 are alcohol related. I think the city as a whole is addressing that issue by making the bars in Iowa City 21 only.

 

[mikem]

Your totally right I am not upset at all. The fact is 15 of those 18 are alcohol related. I think the city as a whole is addressing that issue by making the bars in Iowa City 21 only.

Of course you are not upset. The end always justifies the means, right bred?

 

[Hawks]

HAHAHA, typical response. Good thing that you had so much to do with it.

You know, it is pretty telling that most of your fellow breds don't even try to defend this stuff anymore.

Good to see that your limits are so apparent.

So because I am not on the team I can't talk about it????

 

[mikem]

So because I am not on the team I can't talk about it????

Well, there are many bred hawk boards, they like talking about their greatness there. Why would you come to a Cyclone board, and be a ******?

 

[tm3308]

Damn, Mike you didn't even reply to my post. You made a reference to my point, but you didn't respond to me specifically. I'm disappointed lol.

Like I said, the sheer volume of alcohol citations/arrests/etc. is too high, IMO. But if that's the worst thing that those players do in their 4-5 years, that really isn't so bad.

 

[Hawks]

Of course you are not upset. The end always justifies the means, right bred?

I wouldn't say always, but I am not going to lose sleep over college kids getting drinking tickets.

 

[Hawks]

Well, there are many bred hawk boards, they like talking about their greatness there. Why would you come to a Cyclone board, and be a ******?

Because it is fun to see people like you get upset.

 

[mikem]

Because it is fun to see people like you get upset.

You see bred that is what I am talking about....I would never think of going to one of those incestuous inbred hawk boards and talking ****.

I don't understand the rationale, or lack of candor in you for lack of a better word "people."

You are the first pos to talk **** about Freddie, and the transfers. But you have a team FULL of arrests. What chromosome are you missing that makes that make sense to you?

Oh tm, I love that you are still trotting out that same it's only alcohol nonsense too. But I have already explained this to you too many times. I am guessing that you are either stupid (which I am trying not believe), or just in complete denial because you are a sheep (if that is the case, then be careful of hawks) that blindly follows.

IF there were any REAL repercussions for this behavior, it would stop.

 

[Hawks]

You see bred that is what I am talking about....I would never think of going to one of those incestuous inbred hawk boards and talking ****.

I don't understand the rationale, or lack of candor in you for lack of a better word "people."

You are the first pos to talk **** about Freddie, and the transfers. But you have a team FULL of arrests. What chromosome are you missing that makes that make sense to you?

Oh tm, I love that you are still trotting out that same it's only alcohol nonsense too. But I have already explained this to you too many times. I am guessing that you are either stupid (which I am trying not believe), or just in complete denial because you are a sheep (if that is the case, then be careful of hawks) that blindly follows.

IF there were any REAL repercussions for this behavior, it would stop.

Yay for swearing that we can't see and personal attacks. No I am not the first poster to talk bad about Fred. There was a rather large argument about this when Lucious was first visiting Iowa State.

 

[tm3308]

You see bred that is what I am talking about....I would never think of going to one of those incestuous inbred hawk boards and talking ****.

I don't understand the rationale, or lack of candor in you for lack of a better word "people."

You are the first pos to talk **** about Freddie, and the transfers. But you have a team FULL of arrests. What chromosome are you missing that makes that make sense to you?

Oh tm, I love that you are still trotting out that same it's only alcohol nonsense too. But I have already explained this to you too many times. I am guessing that you are either stupid (which I am trying not believe), or just in complete denial because you are a sheep (if that is the case, then be careful of hawks) that blindly follows.

IF there were any REAL repercussions for this behavior, it would stop.

Like I said, I agree that there are too many. And steps need to be taken to curb the problem. But I won't lose sleep over drinking tickets (other than OWI's, those are serious IMO).

And to be fair about hawks casting the first stone here: he threw the second one. This thread, and the joking that Cyclone fans were engaging in was the first shot. Not that the jokes were unwarranted, just saying that this thread was the first shot, and hawks retaliated.

 

[mikem]

Yay for swearing that we can't see and personal attacks. No I am not the first poster to talk bad about Fred. There was a rather large argument about this when Lucious was first visiting Iowa State.

Ahh, and what was your well reasoned response? Was it no big deal, because we don't know why Allen and Lucious were dismissed by Izzo, so you figured that you would give them the benefit of the doubt like kirkie the scum did the first time that Douglas was arrested, or for Clayborn, Sapp, or, well, the list in infinite....Add montel Marion who was dismissed from the program being allowed back on the team because he gives you a better chance of winning...

Were you willing to give White a chance because he is a heck of a kid who made a mistake, like the coaches did for the two rapists (especially bad because kirkie the scum KNEW what happened and was in the process of covering it up)? Or like Alford did for the rapist, or Tyler Smith, or Mike Henderson?

The other transfers had no off the court issues, so I am sure that you didn't lump them in with the Allen (who had no legal issues according to Izzo), or White, right?

I don't care enough about you to look at your previous posts, but I have a feeling that you weren't nearly as forgiving for these young men that are going to be Cyclones as you were for the hawk criminals....

 

[mikem]

Like I said, I agree that there are too many. And steps need to be taken to curb the problem. But I won't lose sleep over drinking tickets (other than OWI's, those are serious IMO).

And to be fair about hawks casting the first stone here: he threw the second one. This thread, and the joking that Cyclone fans were engaging in was the first shot. Not that the jokes were unwarranted, just saying that this thread was the first shot, and hawks retaliated.

hawks retaliated???....It's yet another national story that makes you look bad. The thread wasn't out of hand, I was actually looking forward to reading this when I heard about it on Dan Patrick this morning.

BUT then comes uber tavern hawk scott comes on here and tries to dodge, deflect, and spin away this problem, and he provided false and misleading information (maybe an honest mistake, so I won't call him a liar).

The fact that the u felt compelled to issue a press release is completely hilarious. It is sad as well, that they are so far in bed with kirkie the scum, and the way he does nothing to discipline players, that they have to even do this.