Sandbagging at Hilton
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Maybe the big ones against NU or Texas.
But at the same time, I'd think our attendance would drop dramatically.
Although it'd be a great promo opportunity and HUGE PR move and make it "high school" night. Sign-up all the Metro high school teams - cheap admission.
This story has gone national. AP Radio News had a soundbyte from Ames Mayor Ann Campbell, and reported that the football players are sandbagging.
It just occurred to me ... Hank Kohler, proprietor of Happy Joe's on South Duff, which judging from the pictures online, is underwater.
The funeral visitation for his Mom is tonight in Ames, funeral in Remsen tomorrow.
Now that my friend, is a kick in the junk.
(I know Hank's brother, Keith Kohler, pretty well as saw the obit in the Ames Tribune last night.)
The funeral visitation for his Mom is tonight in Ames, funeral in Remsen tomorrow.
Now that my friend, is a kick in the junk.
(I know Hank's brother, Keith Kohler, pretty well as saw the obit in the Ames Tribune last night.)
Joe Schad just tweeting this article and mentioned that ISU players are helping with sandbagging.
First flood in 1976. Then again in 1993. Then again in 2010. Anyone see a pattern? Were there other major floods in between?
At least they have the indoor facility and the other practice field next door once everyone can get there tomorrow and so forth. Not a total "nowhere to practice" moment.
Here's the record crest for Squaw Creek at Lincoln Way, from NOAA:
It was just shy of the record from '93 with 18.13ft this morning. I don't see '76 on the list at all.
Yeah... some kind of storm gate that could be put in that could be raised\lowered at the vulnerable spots in hilton maybe?
Probably need more than that. Sucks Hilton is getting nailed. But Lied, Iowa State Center, potentially Jacobsen, RCA, etc - are all getting it too. Those are still university dollars.
Seems the only real thing to do is to levy all the way up university to near the power plant ...... somehow. From the aerials, looks like University Dr south by the stadium is good/high enough. Just too low up there by Brookside park and Lincoln way. And would need a series of gates along the way. Alot of cash.
How's vet med doing? Looks like they might be in the line of all this as well.
Well, 1976 was just the first one I guess since the Center buildings were there. It was not nearly as bad as this one, or the one in 1993. There was water all around Hilton, but it never made it down the east ramp......the flooding inside Hilton was just from the sewers backing up.
Surprised it is not on the list though, because Squaw Creek and the Skunk were both out of their banks.
Sometimes, there's really nothing you can do, except maybe move all your buildings up to higher ground. During the Iowa City floods, we tried to hold back the river, but it was just too much. Hancher, the Art buildings, the Music building, the Library, the Union...
Now we have a new Rec center that's at the same level as the other buildings that flooded. If another flood comes through IC like the 2008 flood, then we're looking at millions upon millions of dollars worth of damage. Short of having some way of potentially diverting floodwaters to some sort of channel or something, I'm not sure what you could do.
Anyway, you hope that these kind of events truly are once in a lifetime events, but I fear that's not the case. I think we'll be seeing much more of these "once in 10" or "once in 100" or even "once in 500" year floods...
The entire area doesn't really need to be protected, just the buildings.
Just a rough, rough, quick calculation...
According to Building Room List,
The first floor area in Hilton is 53125 ft^2. Assuming a water height of 8 ft...
53125 ft^2 * 8 ft * 7.481 gal/ft^3 = 3,179,425 gal.
Assume Hilton filled in two hours: 3,179,425 gal / 120 minutes = 26,496 GPM.
This influx rate could be easily removed by engine-driven flood control pumps.
Do a more rigorous analysis like this for each of those facilities, compute the cost of installing/maintaining/operating flood control pumps for each facility, and then compare the cost to building a levee. My gut feeling is that the flood control pumps for the buildings would be significantly less expensive and invasive then building a levee, and the pumps could be installed much more quickly than building a levee.
But wouldn't be better/cheaper/cleaner/safer to keep the water out in the first place?
Not that I'm particularly concerned - they aren't going to do anything anyway.
Where would you pump the water? If you just pump it back outside, it raises the water out there, wouldn't it just increase the inflow? Wouldn't this only work if you could pump it somewhere it wouldn't normally go?
Yes. But, say, if one solution is an order of magnitude cheaper than the other and can be implemented quickly, it may be economically feasible.