Sandbagging at Hilton

Can anyone give any details on the aftermath of the '93 flood? I've heard it occurred in early July, so there was more time to clean up. Was Hilton open for volleyball/basketball that year? Was there any major damage to buildings in the main part of campus, etc.?

I don't think much of anything happened on campus.

Heck, I had a class that AM and didn't know anything about it til about 9:00

Pretty much seeing a repeat right now. Lied, RCA, Athletic complex.
 
Only thing you could hope to do at this point is somehow levy along Lincoln way in front of Hilton, then south along university.

Of course everyone would be screaming about the loss of parking.

Did some quick calculations. If we're talking 5 feet of water, that's about 2.1 billion pounds of water on the levy at the Iowa State Center alone. And I don't think the state would be happy with a levy that covers JTS and Hilton but ignores the dorms, where people live. Bottom line, it would cost a Ton of money to build a levy. Although with the frequency that this has happened, it might be a good project to give to the civil engineering seniors to try to figure out some low cost options to prevent any future flooding.
 
Not sure how the floor is constructed now, but it used to only take a crew of 8 to 10 about 2 hours to take it down. Takes longer to put it together, obviously.

Actually, the cost to the rest of Hilton would probably be pretty minimal, depending on how deep the water is. You may have some damage to the arena circle seats on the side and maybe some damage in the storage rooms, depending on how high things are stored off the floor.

A basketball floor is really expensive. If it has to be replaced, you are probably talking about $100,000 to $150,000 minimum. Hopefully it will not have to be replaced.


I know the cost of a floor, but how many times do you hear a building like Hilton getting flooded like that with damages not over a million? You've got locker rooms probably ruined, electrical and a lot of stuff I probably don't even know about.
 
Ugh. I was hoping all the renos they did for the VB offices wouldn't be affected (don't remember what level they're on). Sounds like Coach J-L is trying to save what she can per BF twitter. :sad:
 
Plus you still need to have access to the parking lots. So water would just back up through the driveway instead of over the whole site. The only way to fix the problem would be building a levy on the other side of the road.

Regardless, you'd need to bag a road or install some sort of gate.

Lincoln Way, S 4th and 6th are every bit the issue the entrances to lots are, I imagine.
 
Does anybody know when this is supposed to crest? Listening to the Ames dispatch and they wanted to correct KCCI reporting 12 tonight...
 
Ugh. I was hoping all the renos they did for the VB offices wouldn't be affected (don't remember what level they're on). Sounds like Coach J-L is trying to save what she can per BF twitter. :sad:

I believe all the offices and the new lounges are up on the concourse where the old basketball offices were (I think). Those are probably ok.

Safe to say all the equipment and lockerrooms down low are trashed.
 

WOW! That is MAJOR! This looks worse than 93 even.

The water is deep enough that virtually all of your arena circle seats are damaged. The main mechanical room (off the NW corner of the floor) is underwater....that will be huge. All storage rooms on the ground level at least 6 feet of water in them. That will mean curtains, wrestling mats, dry goods will all be damaged. All the locker rooms will have at least 6 feet of water in them.

Not good. I assume the University has insurance for this.

I used to work at the Iowa State Center. Scheman will have a major problem. The whole mechanical room and electrical vault will be under water there, unless they managed to keep it out by some miracle. Stephens and Fisher are probably fine, they are on higher ground....but there could be some problems with their mechanical rooms too. Sad to see this again.
 
I know the cost of a floor, but how many times do you hear a building like Hilton getting flooded like that with damages not over a million? You've got locker rooms probably ruined, electrical and a lot of stuff I probably don't even know about.

I know......it all depends on how deep the water is, and how soon someone reacted to protect the building. If the water were only a few inches deep and the flloor was floating, there would not be much damage to the building, but there could be a lot to the basketball floor.

Having seen the video inside Hilton now, it is obvious now that the damage to the floor will likely be the least of their problems. Depending on what they may have been able to do, all of the locker rooms, storage rooms, and mechanical rooms appear to be flooded. Hopefully ISU has insurance to cover it.
 
Accoding to Coach Steyer's tweet 10 mins ago, Hilton is 7 feet under water :(

I think it's more accurate to say that Hilton is now a 7' swimming pool. :wink:

We may have to install those water tight doors like you see on boats.
 
If it is still like it was in 1993, ISU is self-insured.

Are there pumps of any kind in Hilton? Perhaps you can't keep the water out, but at least keep the levels to a minimum...

Talk about a kick to the junk. This, on top of all the state budget cuts? Ouch.
 
This will have a huge impact on the volleyball season, will be interested to see/hear more reports and what kind of time table it will take to complete the repairs.
 
If it is still like it was in 1993, ISU is self-insured.

Are there pumps of any kind in Hilton? Perhaps you can't keep the water out, but at least keep the levels to a minimum...

There are drains in the floor of Hilton.......used to drain the ice after it was down, but obviously those are going to be of no use now.....since no doubt the storm sewers are full and probably backing up into the building already. I wonder if the sanitary sewers have backed up into yet? That will make the problem even worse.

You could use sump pumps to pump the water out, but that may be useless if the water is still coming in. Once the storm sewers are open again, it will not be terribly difficult to get the water out.
 
I think it's more accurate to say that Hilton is now a 7' swimming pool. :wink:

We may have to install those water tight doors like you see on boats.


They can bring back men's swimming. I bet Garrett would be a beast in the freestyle.
 
Not sure how the floor is constructed now, but it used to only take a crew of 8 to 10 about 2 hours to take it down. Takes longer to put it together, obviously.

Actually, the cost to the rest of Hilton would probably be pretty minimal, depending on how deep the water is. You may have some damage to the arena circle seats on the side and maybe some damage in the storage rooms, depending on how high things are stored off the floor.

A basketball floor is really expensive. If it has to be replaced, you are probably talking about $100,000 to $150,000 minimum. Hopefully it will not have to be replaced.

Actually it takes a crew of around 15-17 (if I remember correctly) between 2 and 2.5 hours to put in the floor. Taking it out would use the same crew and be almost the same time. That is what I remember from almost 20 years ago when I was filling those calls. They still would have had to use additional time and labor to move it out of the floor level up to the concourse to keep it safe. The carts of floor would have to go outside to make it to the concourse level as the elevators wouldn't handle that size cart (at least they didn't back then). So if the top of the ramp was already wet, that ship would have already sailed if you'll pardon the pun.

However, if they thought their labor was best served keeping the water out and they thought they were going to accomplish that, they would have used the labor there rather than taking out the floor.
 
I don't know what people are worried about. We're Iowa State. We have plenty of money to pay for all of the damages...We just have to ask another big time donor to pony up...wait...That's Oklahoma State. Crap.
 

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