Sandbagging at Hilton

Actually, tiling help prevents floods.

Tiling would drain the field and prevent flooding of that particular field, but it all has to drain somewhere and will inevitably end up in the nearby stream. Unless there is some sort of detention system installed with the tiling I don't see how this would limit flooding downstream in the watershed. Isn't this correct? There could be factors involved that I don't know though, not intimately familiar with agricultural tiling.
 
Tiling would drain the field and prevent flooding of that particular field, but it all has to drain somewhere and will inevitably end up in the nearby stream. Unless there is some sort of detention system installed with the tiling I don't see how this would limit flooding downstream in the watershed. Isn't this correct? There could be factors involved that I don't know though, not intimately familiar with agricultural tiling.

Yes it will end up in a nearby stream, but only when that stream can handle it. It might make the stream run higher than normal, but the benefits of that land being less saturated when the big rains occur more than make up for it.

I'm not saying tiled farmland is better than grass or wetlands for flooding, but it sure beats untiled farmland.
 
True. But I'm talking about pourous pavement (where the water seeps-in and enters the groundwater table instead of being flushed instantly into a sewer or drainage ditch, which means the water slowly enters the water supply rather than quickly being flushed into a quickly rising river) AND durable green roofs. These are two separate things.

Here's a good resource for green roofs:
Greenroofs.com: The Resource Portal for Green Roofs

Green roofs have many layers of substrate. They are usually set-up with drainage systems in mind, but it often takes hours or days for the water to run out rather than instantly. I don't have time to explain about green roofs, just look up some information on your own if you're interested or head to the local bookstore and flip through some books about them. It's amazing what countries like Denmark and Germany have been doing for years, and we're very far behind.

The problem with porous pavement in Iowa is during the winter it fills with all the sand and salt that we pour on the roads to melt ice. The sand fills in the voids of the pavement and salt is death to any pavement. I know ISU put in a porous ashphalt parking lot up north by the library storage building. I'm not sure how its done though.
 
Yeah, I just got a text that saying the same thing. Hilton's floor is in one piece...but floating.

I would hope there is a picture of this out there. If we are going to deal with the damage, might as well get to see it. You've got to admit, that would be a crazy site that you wouldn't have a chance to see just any other day.
 
Safe to say that the floor is/will be trashed? They junked it in '93.

Wonder how that will impact the volleyball matches in the coming weeks?

If it is junked - I suppose the upside is there will be a few cool and unique auction items this fall.
 
Fact is, much of Ames is simply on a flood plain. This kind of stuff is going to happen.

If you are protecting millions of dollars, we can justify a better building flood defense. Wally and Fred need to be working on this. Are we like U of I or what? Not. Can the Skunk defeat us? Not. We are ISU.
 
I would imagine the cost of the damage to the rest of hilton would dwarf the cost of the floor. I don't know how much effort it takes to put the floor up, but it might not be the most efficient use of manpower.
 
I would imagine the cost of the damage to the rest of hilton would dwarf the cost of the floor. I don't know how much effort it takes to put the floor up, but it might not be the most efficient use of manpower.

I'm sure it's a fairly time consuming endeavor - and not one that can be readily done in the middle of the night in response to a flash flood.
 
I would imagine the cost of the damage to the rest of hilton would dwarf the cost of the floor. I don't know how much effort it takes to put the floor up, but it might not be the most efficient use of manpower.

Not sure how the floor is constructed now, but it used to only take a crew of 8 to 10 about 2 hours to take it down. Takes longer to put it together, obviously.

Actually, the cost to the rest of Hilton would probably be pretty minimal, depending on how deep the water is. You may have some damage to the arena circle seats on the side and maybe some damage in the storage rooms, depending on how high things are stored off the floor.

A basketball floor is really expensive. If it has to be replaced, you are probably talking about $100,000 to $150,000 minimum. Hopefully it will not have to be replaced.
 
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Not sure how the floor is constructed now, but it used to only take a crew of 8 to 10 about 2 hours to take it down. Takes longer to put it together, obviously.

Perhaps we need to install a series of winches in the ceiling and "hoist" the floor up in an emergency?

:pwink:
 
I love how Iowa State, being an amazing engineering college, can allow this type of thing to happen to Hilton like this again.

Perhaps we need to install a series of winches in the ceiling and "hoist" the floor up in an emergency?

:pwink:

Put these two together and you have an awesome class project for a professor to assign engineering students.
 

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