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I thought the defense did enough to win. If the offense could have sustained a couple decent second half drives, Iowa only gets 24 points, maybe less.

Somebody needs to tell the offense (including the coaches) about the second half. Nice job not giving up the ball, but the lack of offense really swung the momentum in the second half and set the hawkeyes up for the win.

Does anyone have a status on Parker?
 
People...are you forgetting ALL the tackles that were missed by the ISU defense?

The offense played well today...especially running the ball. The 2nd half defense let us down.
 
That's because they were on the field all day. We had the ball for 12 minutes in the second half, we took the air out of the ball, which allowed Tate enough touches to get in a flow.
We have heard all pre season that our defense was going to be a HUGE question, but our offense would take the heat off of them. Well the players are good, but the schemes are taking the ball out of their hands
 
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People...are you forgetting ALL the tackles that were missed by the ISU defense?

The offense played well today...especially running the ball. The 2nd half defense let us down.
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I agree completely. We just laid down and rolled out the red carpet towards our end zone in the second half. Offense was great the first half. Their defense just crept up on us second half, I think.
 
I wonder, since it was pretty apparent on TV that Iowa's d-backs moved up and took away the comfortable zones in which they were exploiting, that we didn't try any stop and go patterns. Maybe we did, and I missed it, but it seems to me that since the corners, and safetys were sneaking up, they were ripe for a long pass. Again, maybe I am wrong, and they tried several of these plays and I just missed them.
 
Why didn't we take ANY shots down the sideline to Blythe? Our short passing game is pretty good, but if you can't have a deep threat (don't see why not) downfield, the opposing team will eventually close in and be more effective. That is when you take a shot downfield and make them give you space. That is NOT what we did today.
 
cstrunk said:
Why didn't we take ANY shots down the sideline to Blythe?
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If you're talkig about in the 4th Qtr, then the obvious reason was the wind...we were going into a strong wind that was picking up compared to the rest of the game, that and the fact the EIU's D was doing a better job of covering in the second half. Should we have gone deep a few times earlier in the game? Ofcourse we should have. But I'm personally not mad with our offense, but rather the tackiling skills of our D. How many weak arm tackles did Iowa players break? Every big Iowa play seemed to have one or two easily broken arm tackles. We are going to have to learn to wrap up the opposing players and not just throw out an arm.

Now, onto to Texas...
 
C.John said:
Should we have gone deep a few times earlier in the game? Ofcourse we should have. But I'm personally not mad with our offense, but rather the tackiling skills of our D. How many weak arm tackles did Iowa players break? Every big Iowa play seemed to have one or two easily broken arm tackles. We are going to have to learn to wrap up the opposing players and not just throw out an arm.
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Agreed - this loss was not the offense's fault. The drive for the second touchdown was spectacular. The defense just couldn't stop anything - half-a$$ed attempts at tackles aren't going to cut it against Oklahoma and Texas. And I didn't see us try a nickel defense even once, when they had, what, three or four times as many passing yards as us in the middle of the third quarter? You could tell the d was giving it their all - I don't want to make it sound like they weren't - but I think they got over-tired by the second half.
 
I know that our defense needs to be able to make stops when we need them to. Like we all know, our D is young and inexperienced, but I think they've played up to expectations so far (Although we always wish it was better). However, what about our hyped offense? Weren't we supposed to have one of the most dangerous offenses in the Big 12? If by dangerous they mean "has the possibility of" then I still agree, we are one of the most dangerous. However, our offense has not lived up to that reputation thus far. 23, 16, and 17 points respectively in the first three games (regulation) is hardly a "dangerous" offense. Yes folks, that's less than 20 points per game. I don't know how anyone couldn't call that an offensive letdown. Our defense played well enough to keep us in the Iowa game. Our offense let it slip away.
 
cstrunk said:
Why didn't we take ANY shots down the sideline to Blythe? Our short passing game is pretty good, but if you can't have a deep threat (don't see why not) downfield, the opposing team will eventually close in and be more effective. That is when you take a shot downfield and make them give you space. That is NOT what we did today.
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WAY!!!!!! to conservative. Let it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very poor pass defense.
By the way we have a All American wide-receiver;through him the damn ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Our offense has scored 3 points in the second half of the last two games. You can't blame the defense for that. The defense came up with the big turnover at the end of the game to give our offense a chance and they couldn't deliver. This veteran offense is supposedly the strength of this team. They haven't stepped up in the second half of games this season.
 
C.John said:
If you're talkig about in the 4th Qtr, then the obvious reason was the wind...we were going into a strong wind that was picking up compared to the rest of the game, that and the fact the EIU's D was doing a better job of covering in the second half. Should we have gone deep a few times earlier in the game? Ofcourse we should have. But I'm personally not mad with our offense, but rather the tackiling skills of our D. How many weak arm tackles did Iowa players break? Every big Iowa play seemed to have one or two easily broken arm tackles. We are going to have to learn to wrap up the opposing players and not just throw out an arm.

Now, onto to Texas...
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I meant taking shots throughout the whole game. We've got to be able to do this in order to open up our offense.
 
I agree this shouldn't be placed in the offenses lap, but the last four possessions were 3 and outs, and they only scored 3 points in the second half. That's going to lose us a lot of games.
 
BryceC said:
I agree this shouldn't be placed in the offenses lap, but the last four possessions were 3 and outs, and they only scored 3 points in the second half. That's going to lose us a lot of games.
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True. Anyone seen the final comparison numbers on passing yards? Wasn't it around 148 (Iowa) - 54 (us) in early 3rd quarter?
 
Why all this talk about not taking shots down field? Are ya forgetting the time we DID and it was tipped away...could have been intercepted?
 
I don't see any way you can hang this loss on the defense. I thought they played a good game. Sure they missed some tackles, but in case you just started paying attention, we don't have (and never have had) the kind of D personell that can just shut a good team down. We bend but don't break. Wait for a penatly, turnover, etc and captialize. Make the other team play perfect to score. I think our D did that. They got the only turnover of the game. They didn't give up any huge plays.

That doesn't work too well when your own offense is 3 and out for almost an entire half. Without some O, our D can't win against a good team.

Come on Offense! I think if our offense is hitting on all cylinders (like on their last drive of the first half,) we can play with anyone.
 
I agree the offense should score more than 3 points in the 2nd half...yet our defense gave up points in cases where all the needed to do was finish off tackles. Poor fundimentals led to at least 14 Iowa points.

Why do you think Mac was playing ball control with the football on offense? Because he knew it wasn't good to have his defense on the field too long...knowing eventually Iowa would put points on the board...and...they did.
 
This loss was a team effort. The offense couldn't put points on the board and sustain drives in the second half so the defense was on the field pretty much all half. The defense missed tackles and I personally am getting sick of the opposing quarterbacks completing 70 percent of their passes. We give them the short passes and the QB gets in a groove. Last year we had solid playmakers on D that could force Turnovers but I haven't noticed anyone step up this year. Skladaney needs to come up with some variations on defense to either pressure the QB or fill up the empty space in the secondary. And special teams couldn't help us to win the field position battle so all three phases led to the loss. And Iowa deserves credit too. They made the adjustments at half time to stop our Offense and break apart our D.

On O, I personally would like to see some pump fakes from meyer and some double moves from the receivers. The Iowa safeties were creeping up the second half and jumping on our routes.

And whatever happened to misdirection in our offense? Back with Sage and Seneca, we would run some reverses, bootlegs, and fake reverses to keep the defenses on their heels. It would be nice to throw those plays every once in a while. I remember the first play of the iowa game in 2001 I believe, we ran a reverse that went for a TD.

I was impressed with Hicks and our O-line today. There were some good sized holes for Stevie today especially right in the middle of the line.

Hopefully we turn things around for the start of the rough big 12 schedule.
 
ISUFan22 said:
Why all this talk about not taking shots down field? Are ya forgetting the time we DID and it was tipped away...could have been intercepted?
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Dan is that you???:wink0st:
Look, noone is saying that we should play video game football, but you have to keep a defense honest. This coaching staff has to be the easiest one in division 1 football to adjust to, because we do the same thing all game. This staff reacts to what everyone else does (usually too late) and is never proactive forcing change during the course of the game.
 
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