Hamilton's dad on Greg
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I think you're spot on. It makes we wonder though, how did GMac ever become a head coach if he has such poor people skills? Being a division 1 head basketball coach is largely about building relationships. No clue, but my $.02 is the pressure to perform at ISU caused him to relate to players more harshly than is in his nature. When that didn't work, he would then compensate by trying to be their friend. Before you know it, players have no clue how to relate to GMac since his standards are so inconsistent.
OK.... I have to break my vow to not post in the MBB forum until GMAC is gone. We all owe a huge thank you to Snowcraig. He gave us the first piece of credible "insider" information into the disaster that is the basketball program. You know it is credible when the knights that have sworn to protect all that is GMAC are furious that the info has been leaked out. A true insider isn't just going to blow smoke up everyone's *** by saying everything is always great even though this program has been completely turned into a nuclear wasteland by their hero GMAC. A real insider will share information good or bad. An insider will not withhold information like these jokers were trying to do because it didn't fit their agenda. The agenda is ISU basketball and how to move it forward. It isn't to protect GMAC at all costs. I guess we know (as if we didn't before) that these people can't be trusted to give accurate information when they have been caught red-handed trying to keep the truth from getting out. Now we can all see them for what they really are. :yes:
CycloneErik
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There's probably something there. With Huggins and Martin, they're harsh, but you know exactly what you're going to get as a player, so it's easier to deal with. It's the unpredictable personalities that are harder to deal with or figure out.
CycloneErik
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I think this post is really petty. There are plenty of people with posts like this, but this is a good example of pettiness right here. Some people are just positive, and they feel their trust was broken, mostly because it was. No reason to be nasty about it.
I have heard nothing Positive to make you feel better. If Gmac is our coach we are in for a long year.
So when people ask certain "insiders" what is going on with the program and they tell everyone that good news is coming soon and everything is moving in the right direction but they forget to mention info they have access to such as what a players parent had to say which coincidentally matches exactly what WJ said and he was crucified for they choose to keep that information hidden. Interesting. I always thought an insider was someone that would share information whether it is positive or negative? Is that not the case?
Edit.... furthermore.... Did the insiders know before the announcement that Ham was leaving? It didn't appear that they did which only furthers the point that they are only insiders of the GMAC fan club. That is far different then being an insider of the Men's basketball program.
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I'm not mad that this is out, I know the truth hurts sometimes. Whether this is one scenario or the norm, no one really knows outside of the basketball team. What has ****** me and others off, is that it should not have been shared with the world, whether I heard it or not makes no difference. I'm not going to apologize for having connections.
Did you have permission to use his quote? Let alone change it? :skeptical:
CycloneErik
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I'm going to go ahead and say there's different kinds of insiders. I don't think anything that was posted in the OPs post here is a big surprise anyway given our relentless turnover.
I think the only thing troubling folks is what I had stated in my other post. I also think that some guys make an effort to at least look at some potentially positive news. That news hasn't been working out, but some just don't want to spend all their time complaining and making themselves miserable.
I think this is pretty unfair. If you were in a public office, and all your friends were spouting off to everyone about information that was said in confidence, I doubt you would be happy either. This piece of news about Hamilton doesn't involve NCAA violations or anything that needed to be reported so that one can live with themselves. No "whistle-blowing" needed here, if you will. To be right honest, none of these allegations are even surprising.
I am a so called "GMac hater", and while I appreciate snowcraig's post, and the fact it legitimizes some of the inklings we've had about why players transfer, but if he really did violate a trust here, I can certainly understand CIMD and ZJ getting angry. Obviously, that is a point of contention, whether it was meant to be private or not, but that's for them to decide. On a side note, ZJohnson, we get it, you're angry at snowcraig about this so called insider info. You accusing him over and over of violating this trust isn't going to undo what he posted.
I understand there is a need for positive things. I get that. What I don't understand is all of this positivity and how they are so vague about how everything is going exactly as planned when the program is falling apart a little more every day. Even these Juco players we are targeting are shooting us down left and right. Role players, bench warmers, and starters are leaving the program right and left. We are looking straight down the barrel of having to play walkons significant minutes next year which will be a total disaster. How can this continue to be spun in a positive way? It's insane.
Unless you have little guy syndrome and want people to think you are important, I can't fathom why you would keep making this same comment in this thread. Otherwise, take it up in a PM. Thanks kid.
From what I read Snowcraig and Summit (Larry) had a deal that they agreed upon that it was ok for him to post the statement for all to see. If this is Larry's first hand statement and he gave Snowcraig permission to share it with all on CF then there is no violation of any secret society code involved here. None. Ham's dad can decide whatever he wants to have done with his statement without any regard for the insiders code of keeping all negative things a secret. Snowcraig did absolutely nothing wrong.
What was your opinion on the Tiger Woods story? His personal life didn't need to be shared with the world, but it was.
Well I didn't give you permission to quote my message if you wanna act like a child about it.
This whole situation is ******* stupid, and just shows how much people overreact to everything these days in here, myself included. I normally stay away from all the drama but this one was too hard for me to stay away from. You guys can continue to badger me and the others that is fine, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Not the time or place to comment on that, but knowing how all of you have reacted today you wouldn't agree with my stance.
If you read the comments I made near the beginning of the thread, I actually thought the same thing. Clearly ZJ and CIMD disagree that there was such an agreement made. Since we were not there, I am saying that it is hard for us to speculate exactly what occured, but those two have a right to be mad if it went down the way they said. I don't think either is dumb enough to interject themselves blindly into an agreement that doesn't involve them.. i hope.
As far as the insider info goes... that's sort of at their discretion isn't it? I may dislike their rosy outlook on things, but it's their view, and not mine. I think there are enough people like you and I who are pessimistic about the program to balance out the Mac apologists.
CycloneErik
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I understand there is a need for positive things. I get that. What I don't understand is all of this positivity and how they are so vague about how everything is going exactly as planned when the program is falling apart a little more every day. Even these Juco players we are targeting are shooting us down left and right. Role players, bench warmers, and starters are leaving the program right and left. We are looking straight down the barrel of having to play walkons significant minutes next year which will be a total disaster. How can this continue to be spun in a positive way? It's insane.
I won't say insane, but it's confusing. Next year definitely looks bad. Looks like it comes down to how any open dates Houston Baptist has to offer.
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