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A new Wes Johnson Article

tim_redd said:
Doesn't paint Iowa State or gmac in a very positive light...
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No, it doesn't. Kind of makes you wonder about the other player defections/transfers and the incidents like Dendy and Colvin a little more doesn't it?

This should help with any recruits that might read this though.
 
Nothing 'new' here. ISU encouraged him to play, because the information they had from Johnson and multiple doctor visits showed no damage.

Please tell me what coach wouldn't do that?


And even after the WJ pulled the rug out on McD, he still had the class to promote him to another coach.
 
isuno1fan said:
How so? It says GMac gave him "glowing remarks" about WJ.
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So? DId you miss the part about how the ISU coaches thought he was soft, and GMac yelled at him for not playing against Nebraska? And how the medical staff here could not see the stress fracture because of the blood and swelling......but what....they thought WJ was soft or faking it? How do you fake swelling? Turns out there was a stress fracture that required surgery. Seems to me like the medical staff, whoever they are, were completely incompetent in this case, and then the coaching staff just compounded the problem. So stupid. Why would you think your star player was too soft, and not wanting to play or something? Idiotic.
 
chuckd4735 said:
Did you not read the first part?
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You mean the part where coach encourage him to play because the doctors said nothing was wrong?

That really makes ISU look bad. Unreal, I cannot believe a coach would ever push an athlete to play through pain. Especially when your trusted medical staff is clearing him to play.
 
Dryburn said:
Idiotic.
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I can't believe coach wanted me to play when I had swelling. Signed, Brett Favre.

Please tell me if you were a coach, and all the information you had showed nothing wrong. After numerous tests. What would you do?
 
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Dryburn said:
So? DId you miss the part about how the ISU coaches thought he was soft, and GMac yelled at him for not playing against Nebraska? And how the medical staff here could not see the stress fracture because of the blood and swelling......but what....they thought WJ was soft or faking it? How do you fake swelling? Turns out there was a stress fracture that required surgery. Seems to me like the medical staff, whoever they are, were completely incompetent in this case, and then the coaching staff just compounded the problem. So stupid. Why would you think your star player was too soft, and not wanting to play or something? Idiotic.
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And thus we have the story of GMac's downfall @ ISU......:sad:
 
rasclone said:
A lengthy article with the process of how he went from ISU to Syracuse

How Wes Johnson went from Iowa State to Syracuse University | syracuse.com
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I read that article a few days ago after the link was posted on a DMR board.

I honestly can't wait until Syracuse does its usual toe-stubbing in the tournament, so we don't have to hear any more about Wesley Johnson. I mean, good for him, and yes, it was certainly the signature blunder in GMac's resume ... but I just don't care anymore.
 
jtd9046 said:
Nothing 'new' here. ISU encouraged him to play, because the information they had from Johnson and multiple doctor visits showed no damage.

Please tell me what coach wouldn't do that?


And even after the WJ pulled the rug out on McD, he still had the class to promote him to another coach.
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But something does not add up here. If the x-rays Iowa State took showed no damage because of the swelling and blood, wouldn't the swelling and blood still tell you that something was wrong? And the fact that he was having trouble running should have told you something. Why would you think that your star player didn't want to play, or was faking an injury, which is essentially what the ISU coaches were accusing him of doing by saying he was soft. Something just does not pass the smell test here, and in light of other player defections and problems we have all seem, I'm sorry.....but I tend to believe WJ here.
 
jtd9046 said:
You mean the part where coach encourage him to play because the doctors said nothing was wrong?

That really makes ISU look bad. Unreal, I cannot believe a coach would ever push an athlete to play through pain. Especially when your trusted medical staff is clearing him to play.
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It more or less comes down to a trust issue. WJ said he was in pain and could not play. Coaching staff did not believe him and punished him for not playing hard. If you were WJ, what would you think?
 
There is nothing surprising in that story because that has been Wes's side of the story all along. If you notice, the sources for this story was Wes's brother and a SU assistant coach.
 
chuckd4735 said:
Did you not read the first part?
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Dryburn said:
So? DId you miss the part about how the ISU coaches thought he was soft, and GMac yelled at him for not playing against Nebraska? And how the medical staff here could not see the stress fracture because of the blood and swelling......but what....they thought WJ was soft or faking it? How do you fake swelling? Turns out there was a stress fracture that required surgery. Seems to me like the medical staff, whoever they are, were completely incompetent in this case, and then the coaching staff just compounded the problem. So stupid. Why would you think your star player was too soft, and not wanting to play or something? Idiotic.
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LOL...he was cleared to play. He had another local doctor besides the training staff look at it as well. Nobody could see the stress fracture.
It was an unfortunate situation, but to think this paints a poor picture of our staff....well let's just say you are digging.
 
chuckd4735 said:
It more or less comes down to a trust issue. WJ said he was in pain and could not play. Coaching staff did not believe him and punished him for not playing hard. If you were WJ, what would you think?
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I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing. But what would you think if your were McD?
 
bawbie said:
There is nothing surprising in that story because that has been Wes's side of the story all along. If you notice, the sources for this story was Wes's brother and a SU assistant coach.
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Well the problem is this side of the story is being told over and over again, and recruits will see it.
 
jtd9046 said:
I can't believe I coach wanted me to play when I had swelling. Signed, Brett Favre.

Please tell me if you were a coach, and all the information you had showed nothing wrong. After numerous tests. What would you do?
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But there was swelling, and blood present. He was having trouble running. He did not play very long in the one game that he did try to play. What reason would WJ have to not want to play? Why would he fake being hurt? He was the star of the team. What other evidence was there that he was soft?

If I saw my star player still not able to run well or practice well, I think I would find another set of doctors to tell me why. Why the hell would you jump to the conclusion that your star player was soft? Isn't that a bit of a leap? Was the staff really willing to take a chance like that?
 
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