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What the heck is going on at Michigan?

Rich Rodriguez involved in something shady? Shocking!!
 
I would guess lots of teams are spending more than the max on required and "voluntary" practices.

However, if players are self reporting this... then it means that they hate the program, and/or the staff.
 
There is something shady going down in Michigan, but this (like everything else) will get swept away if they start winning. Of course, they need to start winning either this year or next or someone will be looking for a job and I doubt W. Virgina will want him back!:confused:
 
Funny, just yesterday a buddy of mine (a Michigan alum) was just telling me how much he disliked RichRod because, "He's not a Michigan Man" (i.e. - he's shady, deceitful, bending the rules)

I still think they should have shelled out the coin to get Les Miles, and I still think it's going to happen in a couple of years.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
 
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Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
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I agree 100%. He had everything he would have wanted, and possibly as long as he'd want it. He made a bonehead call, and ended up at a place that doesn't necessarily want what he's bringing.
 
Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
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Could not have said it better myself. What an idiot.
 
its a different world at WVU vs. UM. WVU is borderline third world - many of the athletes he had at WVU would not get accepted at UM.
 
Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
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+1
 
superdorf said:
I would guess lots of teams are spending more than the max on required and "voluntary" practices.

However, if players are self reporting this... then it means that they hate the program, and/or the staff.
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This.
 
Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
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Never mind that he's basically trying to do the same thing at Michigan that Callahan tried to do at Nebraska, which is basically teach the entire program a new language. He may not have been Michigans first choice, but I would doubt that many people would be able to say no if offered the head job at the winningest school in history.
 
Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Instead of essentially having a lifetime contract and almost guaranteed shot at BCS, he'll probably get **** canned in 2 years, and have to coach at UAB or something like that.
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I agree. I just don't understand it sometimes when coaches leave great situations to go to schools with insatiable fanbases. This situation is a prime example, but I also look at Billy Gillispie when he went to Kentucky as a good example as well. He could have really built up A&M, and they would pay him well there. Instead, he goes to a program known to have a rabid fanbase that thinks anything less than a NC is a failing year and gets basically less than 2 years to build anything. He's kind of a ****, and that didn't help him, but he wasn't going to last there anyway.

I can't wait until Notre Dame cans Chuck Weis. I loved watching them twist in the wind as no one wanted their job. Hopefully its the same this tme around.
 
Al_4_State said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Rich Rodriguez leaving his alma mater, home state, and program on the verge of dynasty to walk into the mess in Ann Arbor is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
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He didn't walk into a mess in Ann Arbor. In the five years before he arrived, Michigan went:

10-3 (Rose Bowl)
9-3 (Rose Bowl)
7-5 (Alamo Bowl)
11-2 (Rose Bowl)
9-4 (Capital One Bowl win over Florida & Heisman winner Tim Tebow)

Michigan fans may not have been happy because they weren't beating sweater vest very often, but other than that the program wasn't a mess. Rodriguez is the one who made it a mess by implementing a new offense without having the players to run it.
 
MontyBurns said:
He didn't walk into a mess in Ann Arbor. In the five years before he arrived, Michigan went:

10-3 (Rose Bowl)
9-3 (Rose Bowl)
7-5 (Alamo Bowl)
11-2 (Rose Bowl)
9-4 (Capital One Bowl win over Florida & Heisman winner Tim Tebow)

Michigan fans may not have been happy because they weren't beating sweater vest very often, but other than that the program wasn't a mess. Rodriguez is the one who made it a mess by implementing a new offense without having the players to run it.
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Not a mess in terms of on the field quality, but the expectations there, as opposed to the job he had. He had what most would consider a dream job at WVU. BCS bowls every year, conference titles, beloved, well compensated, etc, and I wouldn't be stunned if the move to Michigan kills his career.

THH said:
but I would doubt that many people would be able to say no if offered the head job at the winningest school in history.
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If they were leading their alma mater to the verge of national championships they might.
 
cycloneML said:
its a different world at WVU vs. UM. WVU is borderline third world - many of the athletes he had at WVU would not get accepted at UM.
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Maybe a few, but although Michigan is a very selective public university, many of the their football and basketball players can barely talk during interviews.
If they were regular students, they wouldn't have a prayer of ever seeing the inside of a classroom in Ann Arbor.
 
Al_4_State said:
Not a mess in terms of on the field quality, but the expectations there, as opposed to the job he had. He had what most would consider a dream job at WVU. BCS bowls every year, conference titles, beloved, well compensated, etc, and I wouldn't be stunned if the move to Michigan kills his career..
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I agree with your other posts, but Michigan is still the better job long term. WVU success has been relatively recent. Michigan has a ton more tradition and money to work with.

I think WVU was a flash in the pan. If he would have stayed they could have perhaps sustained it.

I think any coach following LLoyd Carr had big shoes to fill. Maybe that's why Les Miles didn't take it. Maybe he will in another couple years.:jimlad:
 
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