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Schfinkter said:
Someone getting a little flustered with the :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:, come on Mr. Richie, tell us how you really feel?
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Why don't you take your giggles over to the kid's table, the grown ups are talking football here.
 
DJK15 said:
Holy generalization Batman! You honestly believe that less than 1% of the Hawk fans here actually contribute to good conversation/debate?

I'd say that myself, THH, SI, HH777, Clark, Gary, Chad, etc. make up about 80% of all Hawkeye posts on this board and the vast majority of those posts are debating football - not taking shots, trolling, etc.
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I'm not trolling, I provide insightful information to a fanbase which doesnt want me on their board so much that owner of the site thought that the threads that I post in needed to get moved off of the main page...thats not trolling.
 
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4429 mcc said:
I'm not trolling, I provide insightful information to a fanbase which doesnt want me on their board so much that owner of the site thought that the threads that I post in needed to get moved off of the main page...thats not trolling.
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So everyone posting in the politics/religion forum is a troll? K, got it.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
I frankly think that regardless of where an individual posts, it doesn't give them license to suspend reason (w/ the possible exception of on the occasional completely "homer" threads on the home football board ... fan is derived from "fanatic" after all).

Anyhow, if we're breaking down facts, there is increasing parity in college football as a whole. Obviously there are the occasional powerhouse programs that are truly insane-good ... however, that tends to also result from a confluence of exceptional recruiting (largely due to geography) and elite coaching.

Of course, one of the biggest monkeys on the back of the Big 10 is the fact that Michigan has been struggling in their transition under Rich Rod. The sad thing is that the Big 10 is and pretty much always will be judged by the elite programs in the conference that also so happen to have "tradition" on their side. Thus, that ends up meaning that the Big 10, for better or worse, gets judged by how well Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State are doing. Thus, with Michigan contending with what is presumably only a transient downturn ... the whole conference ends up having to deal with pie on its face.

What also doesn't help is that the Big 10 got caught in a tough bowl-slate where nearly every team was the underdog. Not shockingly, the Big 10 then didn't fare quite so well ... despite playing several very good teams tight. For instance, if the Big 10 was really so bad ... the Michigan State had no business staying in the game against Georgia. Heck, even I thought that the Spartans would get pasted. Similarly, Northwestern arguably should have beaten Mizzou ... of course, in defense of the Big 12, Mizzou didn't exactly finish their season strong (so it wasn't surprising that Mizzou didn't exactly put their best foot forward). Texas was a big favorite against Ohio State ... and that's another game that easily could have gone either way.

The sad thing is that had the Big 10 not gotten 2 BCS bowl games in '08-'09, the conference would have had a much more favorable bowl slate ... and the conference would have probably won all but 1 of the bowl match-ups. Instead, the conference lost all but one! Thus, if the former scenario had transpired ... the only thing dogging the Big 10 going into the '09 season would have been Michigan.

Oddly enough, folks seem to be casting a fairly blind eye to the ACC and Big East last year. Of course, I guess that's how it goes when the richest conference ends up laying the biggest egg over the bowl season.
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Good post. I agree with almost everything you said. The Big XII also suffers the same fate in most years when it comes to the bowl matchups as nearly every year they send 2 teams to the BCS which starts sliding teams up a spot into tougher matchups. You take a team like Mizzou last year and you have a 10 win team playing in the Alamo Bowl against Northwestern. Pretty sure that Mizzou didn't find that to be a very sexy bowl matchup considering they had a shot at the BCS. The Big XII has had a history in Bowls of teams just missing the BCS and then showing their disappointment by going to a lessor bowl against a lessor team and then laying a huge egg.

The media is really laying the hype on strong for the ACC this year. I personally think they have missed the boat on this one but only time will tell.
 
DJK15 said:
Holy generalization Batman! You honestly believe that less than 1% of the Hawk fans here actually contribute to good conversation/debate?

I'd say that myself, THH, SI, HH777, Clark, Gary, Chad, etc. make up about 80% of all Hawkeye posts on this board and the vast majority of those posts are debating football - not taking shots, trolling, etc.
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Really? I would say the vast majority if you take HH777 posts out of that 80% are nothing more then you guys trying to initiate ******* matches at every turn.

Personally I don't like the hawks, Kirk Ferentz, their players, fans, etc.... That is just my personal opinion based on my point of reference. Now I know you guys are defenders of all things hawk and that is fine but I don't understand why you seem to always want to argue those points against every Cyclone poster. Do you honestly think you are going to convert ISU fans over to Iowa? Do you think you will change our opinions on the hawks or how good we perceive them to be? It is a relatively pointless pursuit by some of the hawk fans on here to downgrade the Clones every chance they get with sarcastic posts, etc. If that garbage came to a halt I think you would be more then surprised to find that most people on this board would be more then happy to have a respectful discussion regarding ISU and Iowa. I would be one of those. In all reality up until the point that I joined CF I wasn't much of "hawk hater" but that quickly changed after encountering yourself, SI, GJ, THH, etc....

In all reality most Clone fans on CF wouldn't even bother with the anti-hawk talk had it not been for the handywork of you and your crew. This is a situation that you guys have brought upon yourself.
 
Cyclonestate78 said:
Good post. I agree with almost everything you said. The Big XII also suffers the same fate in most years when it comes to the bowl matchups as nearly every year they send 2 teams to the BCS which starts sliding teams up a spot into tougher matchups. You take a team like Mizzou last year and you have a 10 win team playing in the Alamo Bowl against Northwestern. Pretty sure that Mizzou didn't find that to be a very sexy bowl matchup considering they had a shot at the BCS. The Big XII has had a history in Bowls of teams just missing the BCS and then showing their disappointment by going to a lessor bowl against a lessor team and then laying a huge egg.

The media is really laying the hype on strong for the ACC this year. I personally think they have missed the boat on this one but only time will tell.
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Ah yes...the good old "they didn't want to be there" excuse. I hear this everytime the Hawks win a bowl game.
 
Cyclonestate78 said:
Good post. I agree with almost everything you said. The Big XII also suffers the same fate in most years when it comes to the bowl matchups as nearly every year they send 2 teams to the BCS which starts sliding teams up a spot into tougher matchups. You take a team like Mizzou last year and you have a 10 win team playing in the Alamo Bowl against Northwestern. Pretty sure that Mizzou didn't find that to be a very sexy bowl matchup considering they had a shot at the BCS. The Big XII has had a history in Bowls of teams just missing the BCS and then showing their disappointment by going to a lessor bowl against a lessor team and then laying a huge egg.

The media is really laying the hype on strong for the ACC this year. I personally think they have missed the boat on this one but only time will tell.
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I hear ya man. The ACC love is pretty strange. Both BC and Clemson have new coaching staffs, Virginia and Maryland are about as consistent as Michigan State was under John L. Smith (I'm not sure what the B12 equivalent is to that ... maybe Nebby under Callahan or A&M over the past few years), Miami is a shadow of what it used to be, Wake and Georgia Tech are solid but not elite, and FSU isn't the dominant program it once was. Virginia Tech and FSU both have the potential to be pretty good ... but I certainly wouldn't lump them along in the same sentence with USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, or Florida.

Of course, in the ACC's defense, the parity there is pretty impressive. Duke is pretty much the only whipping boy of the group.
 
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homerHAWKeye777 said:
Of course, I do believe that played a role in Alabama's bowl loss. It's also probably contributed to why Iowa almost beat Texas a few years ago.
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True. People want to deny it exists but it does. Do you think Alabama had their heads in the clouds prior to the Sugar Bowl thinking about how they deserved to be playing against a big time program? They certainly did and it showed on the field.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
I hear ya man. The ACC love is pretty strange. Both BC and Clemson have new coaching staffs, Virginia and Maryland are about as consistent as Michigan State was under Jon L. Williams (I'm not sure what the B12 equivalent is to that ... maybe Nebby under Callahan or A&M over the past few years), Miami is a shadow of what it used to be, Wake and Georgia Tech are solid but not elite, and FSU isn't the dominant program it once was. Virginia Tech and FSU both have the potential to be pretty good ... but I certainly wouldn't lump them along in the same sentence with USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, or Florida.

Of course, in the ACC's defense, the parity there is pretty impressive. Duke is pretty much the only whipping boy of the group.
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Are you referring to John L Smith? You certainly go futher back in the history department than I do so maybe you mean someone else:unsure:
 
DJK15 said:
Ah yes...the good old "they didn't want to be there" excuse. I hear this everytime the Hawks win a bowl game.
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Not only when they win. In 2006 the Longhorns certainly didn't want to be in the Alamo bowl but they still beat the Hawks. :wink:
 
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