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MontyBurns said:
I agree with you 100%.

Their QB is average at best. They have no backup QB with any experience. They lost their star All-American running back and replace him with a guy who has never carried the ball in game-critical situations. They lost their All-Conference tight end and they lost their best WR. Their fans point to that not mattering because their OL is "all world" or something. They were good last year but not great. And they lost two starters to graduation, a 3rd starter just had surgery, and a 4th is suspended for DUI. On defense they lost their two key guys in King and Kroul, and have no depth at all. Add in the fact that they play ISU and Penn State on the road, and the inevitable beatdown that will happen in Columbus since they don't dodge Ohio State like usual, and they look like a 6 or 7 win team. This year looks a lot like 2005 or 2006 for Iowa -- big preseason hype and expectations that end in mediocrity.
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Wow, where to begin...so many choices!

1. Joe Paterno, Tim Brewster, and Stever Spurrier would beg to differ. The same could be said for Tiller as far as the backup having no game experience. Stanzi played in all of 1 game in 2007 and did just fine.

2. Without Jewel Hampton, Iowa doesn't beat Purdue.

3. Is DJK aware that he should have graduated last year? Maybe you should go tell him. He's still on the team, regardless of where he is on the depth chart.

4. Vandervelde will be back by week 3 at the latest, and Calloway will be back in week 2. Either way,, depth on the offensive line is not really an area of concern at this point.

5. What in the **** are you talking about? If you want to talk about dodging teams, take a look in the mirror. Iowa might miss Michigan or Ohio State in a given year, but they usually don't miss both. 2007/8 was an anomaly in the scheduling.

6. Big pre-season hype? Most of the pre-season predictions have Iowa finishing in the middle of the pack in the Big 10, so you're pulling that one out your ***.
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7. But that's nothing new.
 
ajk4st8 said:
Having a really good O and D line will automatically make you a very solid football team. Iowa will be VERY good in those positions.
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They lost 2 NFL-quality interior defensive linemen. How are they going to be as good or better than last year at that position?
 
ISUAlum2002 said:
They lost 2 NFL-quality interior defensive linemen. How are they going to be as good or better than last year at that position?
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I don't think that the issue will be that Iowa will be as good at DT. Clearly Iowa won't be as good at DT in '09 as they were in '08. However, the quality of the D or even the DL isn't solely dependent on the DTs alone. The key is how the guys play together as a whole.

While the level of Iowa's play at DT will be lower ... that's not to say that the new DTs will be anything less than solid. In many regards Iowa is basically going to man the DTs with the rough equivalent of what King and Kroul were as SOs ... and that ain't a bad thing. It shouldn't be forgotten that the play of Iowa's front 7 was excellent last year ... and that was in spite of the fact that 4 of the 7 guys were first-year starters ... 3 of whom were underclassmen! In '09, only 2 of the 7 will be first-year starters ... and only ONE of them is an underclassmen! Furthermore, I don't intend this to be a flame ... however, if you look at relative talent, Iowa's top backup at DE (Binns) is on-par with or better than any of ISU's current starters on the DL. Thus, the fact that Iowa has such great talent at DE afford the DL some flexibility. Furthermore, the fact that Iowa's LBs are now so experienced (and talented) also affords the DL a bit more flexibility too. When you put it all together, it gives you a defensive front 7 that should be able to compensate for the changes at DT and potentially still end up being better than it's '08 counterpart.

Of course, I won't make any claim that that will necessarily be the case from game one. I do believe that the new DTs will have to prove that they can be consistent on an every-down basis first. However, it shouldn't take too long before they prove that they're more than solid.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
Good job of remembering that Moeaki was healthy in each of his first 2 years playing as Iowa's #2 TE! Oh wait ....
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Games played by Moeaki:
2005 6 out of 12
2006 10 out of 13
2007 3 out of 12
2008 8 out of 13
Total: 27 out of 50. More than half, no wonder he's an Internet All-American!
 
Clark said:
You're just now figuring that out...:wink:

If he can't twist the numbers to fit whatever agenda he's working on that day, he just makes it up.
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And then only when you've thoroughly proved him wrong, he disappears. But hey, he's got a cool av.
 
Count me as one that believes Iowa will end up at 6-7 wins once again this year.

I think Iowa's chances of getting 8-9 wins (pre bowl game) are about the same as ISU's of getting 6-7 wins.

There is a chance, but I see Iowa at 7-5 and ISU at 5-7 end of year.
 
Yes,
National, regional, and local media are wrong. Cyclone fans are right. Count on Iowa winning only 4-5 games this year.
 
isuno1fan said:
Count me as one that believes Iowa will end up at 6-7 wins once again this year.

I think Iowa's chances of getting 8-9 wins (pre bowl game) are about the same as ISU's of getting 6-7 wins.

There is a chance, but I see Iowa at 7-5 and ISU at 5-7 end of year.
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What 6 games do you see Iowa losing this year to get to 6-6? It's a stretch for me to see 5 losses even when I don't have my homer glasses on:wink:

As I see it:

No doubt wins: UNI, Indiana, Ark St.

A little harder, but games that Iowa would win 8 out of 10 times:
Northwestern, Michigan, Arizona

Games that I think Iowa will be favored to win, but it could go either way:
ISU, Wisconsin, Minnesota

Tough games that Iowa could be underdogs in: MSU and PSU

Better luck next year: OSU
 
Clark said:
What 6 games do you see Iowa losing this year to get to 6-6? It's a stretch for me to see 5 losses even when I don't have my homer glasses on:wink:

As I see it:

No doubt wins: UNI, Indiana, Ark St.

A little harder, but games that Iowa would win 8 out of 10 times:
Northwestern, Michigan, Arizona

Games that I think Iowa will be favored to win, but it could go either way:
ISU, Wisconsin, Minnesota

Tough games that Iowa could be underdogs in: MSU and PSU

Better luck next year: OSU
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Minnesota belongs in the no doubt category. That game will the seal-clubbing that it usually is when it's in Iowa City.
 
Clark said:
What 6 games do you see Iowa losing this year to get to 6-6? It's a stretch for me to see 5 losses even when I don't have my homer glasses on:wink:

As I see it:

No doubt wins: UNI, Indiana, Ark St.

A little harder, but games that Iowa would win 8 out of 10 times:
Northwestern, Michigan, Arizona

Games that I think Iowa will be favored to win, but it could go either way:
ISU, Wisconsin, Minnesota

Tough games that Iowa could be underdogs in: MSU and PSU

Better luck next year: OSU
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To answer your question, the only sure bet I see in there is Ark St. The rest of the games could swing either way IMO although UNI and Indiana should be close to a sure thing.

Other than those 3, I could see Iowa losing the other 9. That is unlikely to happen of course, but I don't see any blowouts. We'll see how Iowa does in the close games this year because I think they will be in alot of them. KF hasn't impressed me with his end of game management recently so unless that improves, Iowa could stand to lose 5 or 6 of those 9.

We'll see.
 
isuno1fan said:
To answer your question, the only sure bet I see in there is Ark St. The rest of the games could swing either way IMO although UNI and Indiana should be close to a sure thing.

Other than those 3, I could see Iowa losing the other 9. That is unlikely to happen of course, but I don't see any blowouts. We'll see how Iowa does in the close games this year because I think they will be in alot of them. KF hasn't impressed me with his end of game management recently so unless that improves, Iowa could stand to lose 5 or 6 of those 9.

We'll see.
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Tell that to Joe Paterno.
 
isuno1fan said:
Count me as one that believes Iowa will end up at 6-7 wins once again this year.

I think Iowa's chances of getting 8-9 wins (pre bowl game) are about the same as ISU's of getting 6-7 wins.

There is a chance, but I see Iowa at 7-5 and ISU at 5-7 end of year.
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isuno1fan - I don't think that you're appreciating how the current Hawkeye is "built." It's built just like the Iowa squads from 2002-2004. Iowa can ride a really strong D and a serviceable at worst O quite a long ways. Furthermore, if you're a subscriber to the view that the Big 10 is weak ... then that should simply reaffirm that Iowa's chances at having a big season are even greater. I frankly think that the most probable outcome is a 8-4 regular season ... with a 9-3 season being not far behind. Having the '09 Hawkeyes end up 7-5 or 10-2 is probably equally probable. Any other outcome is probably not very likely.
 
Its funny that Monty burns talks in such absolutes and "facts"
What a spin master!

He says moeaki played in 8-13 games in 2008 and for that reason, he is an underachiever based on last years production.

What he would have realized, if he would have watched any of those games, other than ISU, was that moeaki averaged about 10 snaps a game. When in the ball game, he performed very well, and yes was an absolute threat every time. Moeaki struggled with a broken foot, concusion, and leg strain problems due to the broken foot last year, thus his playing time was extremely reduced. Not becuase of lack of talent.
 
ajk4st8 said:
Having a really good O and D line will automatically make you a very solid football team. Iowa will be VERY good in those positions.
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As a Hawk fan, I hope you're right about this but I don't think Iowa will be VERY good on the DL against Iowa State. The one advantage the young DTs will have is going against a very good OL in practice.
 
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