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Williams & Blum Pod: A lot to talk about

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Williams & Blum Pod: A lot to talk about

Williams & Blum address the deafening Tyrese Hunter transfer rumors from over the weekend. A deep talk on the future of NiL and college athletics and specifically, where Iowa State fits in. As always, Williams & Blum are presented by Mechdyne.
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Thanks for being a (mostly) calm, reasonable voice during a time of stress.
 
CW - NFL coaches make more than college football in general per ESPN.

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Good NFL head coaches leaving for college jobs? Barnwell on why it's not far-fetched now

Amid the landscape of booming money, a very good college opening might be enough to keep an NFL owner awake at night.
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While we know what college coaches are getting paid at public universities and salary reports often leak for coaches at private institutions, NFL coaching salaries aren't made widely available. Individual reports pop up here and there -- and asking enough people around the league reveals a reasonable consensus for what different tiers of coaches are making -- but just about every pro coaching salary should be taken with some margin of error.

The low end of those salaries appears to be in the range of $4 million to $5 million per season...

The middle tier of NFL coaches is right in line with the average annual salary for new deals being handed out to Cristobal and Kelly, with salaries coming in between $8 million and $10 million per season...

The one thing everyone generally agrees on is that Bill Belichick is the highest-paid coach in football, which shouldn't be a surprise. While a third tier of coaches is believed to be in the $10 million to $15 million range, the Patriots' longtime boss' rumored compensation comes in north of $15 million and could be as high as $25 million per year. Deals might also include incentives and payment for other roles within the organization, but we can get a general idea of what's happening. For the best NFL coaches, the most desirable college coaches are beginning to catch up. For the rest of the league's coaches, college jobs are willing to pay as much or even more than an NFL gig.
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Trice said:
NIL will level out in a few years. Conference realignment will sort itself out in a few years. Hope we are decimated in the interim.
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I’m guessing you hope we are NOT decimated in the interim ;)

I agree! That’s the concern I have.
 
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I have no idea of the legalities or how NIL is structured, but a possible solution could be something like:

Forcing players to decide between either restricting or freezing potential NIL payments if they wish to play in Y1 after transferring OR

Allowing full NIL payments but then requiring some sort of sit out time (even if not a full year).

I think this could potentially calm the madness in A. Forcing players to realistically prove their value in a new market before collectives and sponsors are allowed to make payments and B. Forcing collectives and sponsors to reassess the market values for said players (especially if a player is going to be sitting for some time).

This may help prevent some of the random 6 figure deals from John Doe Trucking Co. that only further benefits blue bloods in being able to stack out their benches with top-tier talent just because they can pay well.

At the end of the day, I’m not saying players don’t deserve NIL, just think there needs to be some sort of effort to preserve parity among collegiate sports. I think many are concerned it’s just going to dilute the value of all these programs and facilities in smaller markets because the current path seems headed for the system evolving into a farm league..
 
I keep hearing you guys say how NIL will "level off" and businesses aren't getting the ROI they want, sponsoring players who are on bench, etc....

Kansas and Kentucky have been paying players hundreds of thousands of dollars for years. Does Bill Self have issues managing boosters and being beholden to the corporate interests behind his players? No.

Boosters and donations aren't made with the expectation of ROI, at least usually. Sure, the Sukup family gets to have branding on the South Endzone... Does anyone here really expect that to "pay off" long term as an advertising campaign?

Texas gets over $60 million a year in donations. The fact that some of those donations are now being funneled into NIL and paying players isn't going to "slow down" anytime soon. Texas has been terrible by their standards for years, and yet you don't see donors deciding to stop giving money to the athletic program.

Paying for players with NIL isn't an investment in marketing with an expectation of ROI. If they happen to get some ROI, then great, but it's just a donation to try and make the teams win games. This isn't going to change, and it ISN'T going to slow down.
 
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Trice said:
Thanks for catching that.

If we are to be decimated, I prefer it be immediate and final, not long and drawn out!
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I don't think there is any scenario where the death of ISU athletics as we know it isn't long and drawn out. I don't think this will cause that at all, but if you feel this is going to lead to the death of ISU athletics it's going to be a long and painful process.
 
The one thing that the supreme court decision did was effectively make the NCAA powerless. Many are talking how the NCAA needs develop some rules/regulations. The problem is that any rule or regulation they create will get struck down in court.

Rule # 1 of NIL: there are no rules.
 
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NorthCyd said:
I don't think there is any scenario where the death of ISU athletics as we know it isn't long and drawn out. I don't think this will cause that at all, but if you feel this is going to lead to the death of ISU athletics it's going to be a long and painful process.
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I don't know what the long term outcome is here but the part about being immediately decimated was just a joke based on my earlier typo.
 
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