Was it too much for Jared Allen

[Dave19642006]

The the Vikings give up to much for Jared Allen?

Allen, according to the Fox Sports website, will become the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history. His new contract will be for six years and just shy of $74 million. Allen told Fox this includes $31,000,069 guaranteed.

Jared Allen to Minnesota in exchange for a first-round pick (17th overall) and two third-round choices (73rd and 82nd overall). In addition, the two clubs also exchanged picks in the sixth round. The Chiefs acquired the Vikings 182nd overall selection, while Minnesota received the Chiefs 187th overall pick.

Tried to fix the Spelling but can't on the poll-Sorry I was tired and its un-excusable I feel inept I might have to wear a Hawkeye hat today----NOT

 

[zumbro clones]

The Star Tribune said that the Vikings would have had to spend that much to move up to the top of the 1st round in the draft to get a decent DE so they felt it was a good deal.

 

[Clones85']

I voted for NOW

Drafting is pretty hit or miss. Allen is a proven DE in the NFL. Probably a top 3 DE. Good get. Their Defense will be very good next year. Couldn't run against them and now they have a good pass rush which will help out their pass defense

 

[HILLCYD]

In a word Yes. When he gets his third strike this summer and ends up suspended I will giggle like a school girl.

 

[superman_101680]

Sure would love to have a good O to go with the D in Minnesota.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Where's the "couldn't care less" button?

 

[Clone9]

The Vikings should protect their investment by hiring a couple of drivers and tell them to follow Jared Allen around 24/7, wherever he goes. And if he's had a couple of beers.....just have him get in and drive him home.

 

[abcguyks]

The Vikings should protect their investment by hiring a couple of drivers and tell them to follow Jared Allen around 24/7, wherever he goes. And if he's had a couple of beers.....just have him get in and drive him home.

We'll have to wait and see about the drinking issue. The story here in KC is that he has not touched alcohol since his last arrest.

Chiefs blew it big time on this one.

 

[Aclone]

Where's the "couldn't care less" button?

It's called, "Don't Post".

Two words: Herschel Walker.

Yes, I know that if he keeps his nose clean, it's a good deal. But trading up in the first round, say, for Vernon Gholston would not only have given them someone without two strikes on them,. but with five less years on the clock as well.

Not only that, but you have a young star in Adrian Peterson with a limited shelf life--running backs don't last long. I sure as heck would have held onto draft picks to shore up the mediocre right side of the offensive line--not to mention the potentiual problems at center.

The more and better opportunities Peterson has, the better it is for the team.

 

[clone52]

I'm stunned that more people aren't in love with the move. In fact, I think its a good move for both teams.

A pass rush is the biggest need on this team, by far. This pick adds that. The Vikings potentially have the best defense in the league now.

As for the perceived weak offense, I think thats overblown. Sure, Jackson makes mistakes. But he also showed in could go a few games in a row without making the dumb mistakes. It makes sense that just being 1 year more experienced will decrease the number of those mistakes. Not to mention that an improved defense will help the field position, so instaed of having to drive the team 80 yards, he'll only have to drive them 60 yards.

 

[jbhtexas]

Where's the "couldn't care less" button?

It was replaced by the implicit "If you don't care about this thread and poll, then don't click the link for this thread" button...

 

[G-Rock]

I'm a vikings fan and I love the move.

D-end was the Vikes 2nd biggest weakness, and the biggest weakness (QB) wasn't going to be fixed by free agency or the draft.

 

[mwitt]

Does it amaze anyone else that with this new deal -- the biggest ever for a defensive player -- Jared Allen is getting the same amount of guaranteed money as Jake Long? And Long got that money with a contract that is one year shorter.

 

[jdoggivjc]

It's called, "Don't Post".

Two words: Herschel Walker.

Yes, I know that if he keeps his nose clean, it's a good deal. But trading up in the first round, say, for Vernon Gholston would not only have given them someone without two strikes on them,. but with five less years on the clock as well.

Not only that, but you have a young star in Adrian Peterson with a limited shelf life--running backs don't last long. I sure as heck would have held onto draft picks to shore up the mediocre right side of the offensive line--not to mention the potentiual problems at center.

The more and better opportunities Peterson has, the better it is for the team.

It was replaced by the implicit "If you don't care about this thread and poll, then don't click the link for this thread" button...

It's called "I'm desperate for credits..."

 

[cycloneG]

Does it amaze anyone else that with this new deal -- the biggest ever for a defensive player -- Jared Allen is getting the same amount of guaranteed money as Jake Long? And Long got that money with a contract that is one year shorter.

It amazes me that first round draft picks can get such great contracts without having ever played a single down in the NFL while a proven veteran plays his way into a good contract and people complain about the veteran getting the money and not the rookie.

I think rookies are overpaid and veterans are underpaid.

 

[mwitt]

It amazes me that first round draft picks can get such great contracts without having ever played a single down in the NFL while a proven veteran plays his way into a good contract and people complain about the veteran getting the money and not the rookie.

I think rookies are overpaid and veterans are underpaid.

That would have been my point, yes. This NFL draft system is kind of messed up.

 

[clone52]

It's called, "Don't Post".

Two words: Herschel Walker.

Yes, I know that if he keeps his nose clean, it's a good deal. But trading up in the first round, say, for Vernon Gholston would not only have given them someone without two strikes on them,. but with five less years on the clock as well.

Not only that, but you have a young star in Adrian Peterson with a limited shelf life--running backs don't last long. I sure as heck would have held onto draft picks to shore up the mediocre right side of the offensive line--not to mention the potentiual problems at center.

The more and better opportunities Peterson has, the better it is for the team.

Why would you want to waste AP's limited shelf life with risky offensive line draft picks. What makes you think they are going to find better picks than Cook? Its not like the line was so bad that AP couldn't find any running room. I would much rather take a proven commondity who can fix a glaring need.

 

[Aclone]

I'm stunned that more people aren't in love with the move. In fact, I think its a good move for both teams.

The only saving grace is that while it guts a daft that could have given us four (or more) eventual new starters, at least it won't impact the 2009 dreaft. :eep:

A pass rush is the biggest need on this team, by far. This pick adds that. The Vikings potentially have the best defense in the league now.

Sure, it only leaves the strongside linebacker, strongside defensive end and safeties (save an aging Darren Sharper) as positions without outstanding/pro bowl level players. Oh yeah--and depth at corner.

As for the perceived weak offense, I think thats overblown. Sure, Jackson makes mistakes. But he also showed in could go a few games in a row without making the dumb mistakes.

I wasn't even beginning to talk about Tavaris, I'm quite willing to give him another year to settle in. But do you really think that Rice and Berrian ae enough at wideout? Satisfied with Shiancoe at tight end? Cook and Herrera on the right side--when you have the most dynamic back in the game looking for holes? Anyone notice that Birk is not only getting older--but having fits about his contract?

And, did you notice that Allen is working on his third strike? As hyperaware as the Vikings are about character issues since the boat party, I am shocked that they made this trade.

 

[drmwevr08]

Anyone even bringing up the Herschel deal is either dull or a Viking hater. Did they give to much for Allen, time will tell. I think no becuase as many have said, to try to draft someone who will make as big an impact, and do it quickly, is very tough. Most importantly, the Vikes gave 8 picks and 5 guys to Dallas for 4 picks and 1 guy. The scope and duration of the entire damn thing are not even freaking close. You may as well start comparing it to the Babe Ruth deal or Vlade for Kobe.

 

[Aclone]

Anyone even bringing up the Herschel deal is either dull or a Viking hater.

Well, let's see. I've got an IQ over 130, and have been a huge and ever loyal Vikings fan since the days of Francis Asbury Tarkenton. Don't be an a...err, insulting.

Most importantly, the Vikes gave 8 picks and 5 guys to Dallas for 4 picks and 1 guy. The scope and duration of the entire damn thing are not even freaking close.

That's merely a matter of scale. Is it really a positive, when this team has so many holes (and drafted so well in the first three rounds in '07) to give up three potential starters for one? Especially given the potential suspension issues and immense addition to the payroll?

If Allen has twenty sacks, keeps his nose clean, and plays for the Vikes for six or seven years, I won't complain.

But tell me...sure, there are three Pro Bowlers. But who is going to fill Udeze's spot? And have you noticed that Pat Williams is getting up there (he'll turn 36? Tuba would have been nice) And how soon before Kevin Williams wants a contract matching Edwards' megabucks?