uofi condescension

[cyingreen]

Now that the Hoks have won a couple of games after the ISU game, the true colors are beginning to show. Listening to the post game round table discussion after the Hoks game with that national power LA-MONROE, not to be confused with the PCM Mustangs, the common theme bubbling to the surface was a not so veiled "if we had played like we did against Pitt and LA-MONROE, we'd have won the ISU game going away." This took final form when Z opined that the Cyclones had to have "played the game of their lives," to win. I guess a normal effort wouldn't have been good enough.

Enough, Hoks, enough. You had your chance and didn't win. Plus, the Cyclones hardly played "the game of their lives," since we had more penalties, more turnovers, and missed two field goals, one a pretty simple one. I'll agree that your comeback against Pitt was amazing, and was a great win. There's no point in talking about your other two, ah, games/scrimmages. Please do us the favor of agreeing that the better team won when we played, and there were no flukes involved.

The way those guys were obsessing about the ISU game, you'd think it was almost as important to them as their Superbowl.

 

[Frak]

They're just getting the company line in order. By the end of the year, they'll be saying that ISU played well above its best level to beat the hawks. Yet in reality, iowa is one of the worst teams ISU will have played.

 

[1100011CS]

Wait until they finish with a better record and bowl game, again. Which is very likely considering how crappy the big 10 is. It's only going to get worse.

 

[madcityCY]

The arrogance of some of their fans blows me away. It's as if they already forgot they lost to us this year.

 

[PerkyForHerky]

You guys must really talk to different people than I do. Or is this all from the HN people? Those people over there are jackwagons

 

[SplitIdentity]

If it pisses you off so much, why did you listen to the postgame?

Or is this like liberals who listen to Rush, or conservatives who watch MSNBC?

You must enjoy getting worked up.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

The arrogance of some of their fans blows me away. It's as if they already forgot they lost to us this year.

There are some who can forget a loss and not dwell over it all season. I knew Iowa would lose a fair amount of games this year. Forget it and move on. It's not arrogance at all.

 

[CTTB78]

Agreed, only 99% arrogance.

 

[tm3308]

I do think that the Hawks would have won the ISU game had they played the way they have over the last 5 quarters. However, that includes all the gifts that ISU gave us (fumbles, missed field goals).

If Saturday's Iowa team matched up with the ISU team we faced on the 10th, and ISU played a perfect game, I think the winner would be the home team, because they'd be pretty equal on the field.

 

[ajk4st8]

I do think that the Hawks would have won the ISU game had they played the way they have over the last 5 quarters. However, that includes all the gifts that ISU gave us (fumbles, missed field goals).

If Saturday's Iowa team matched up with the ISU team we faced on the 10th, and ISU played a perfect game, I think the winner would be the home team, because they'd be pretty equal on the field.

Exactly. ISU has played poorly all year, but somehow sneaks out wins. ISU doesn't fumble inside the 5 yard line twice going.. or miss FGs... you could argue the other way.

Iowa is about the 7th best team on our schedule and we won... big deal.

 

[Ames]

I do think that the Hawks would have won the ISU game had they played the way they have over the last 5 quarters. However, that includes all the gifts that ISU gave us (fumbles, missed field goals).

If Saturday's Iowa team matched up with the ISU team we faced on the 10th, and ISU played a perfect game, I think the winner would be the home team, because they'd be pretty equal on the field.

With 4 of the last 5 quarters being against a terrible team... I think it's safe to say that ISU could put up some points also. You beat a really bad team on Saturday. That's what you are supposed to do. It's not a sign of anything. You are just proving the OP's point.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

With 4 of the last 5 quarters being against a terrible team... I think it's safe to say that ISU could put up some points also. You beat a really bad team on Saturday. That's what you are supposed to do. It's not a sign of anything. You are just proving the OP's point.

I'm not saying that ULM isn't a bad team, but they played TCU and FSU decently close for the first half until they were wore down. I'm not saying we shouldn't have won easily, but we did play pretty well (especially on offense). We played better, so that is a sign of something: improvement. Whether or not they continue improving is the real question.

 

[Carr50010]

They're just getting the company line in order. By the end of the year, they'll be saying that ISU played well above its best level to beat the hawks. Yet in reality, iowa is one of the worst teams ISU will have played.

I agree,
Iowa has been the worst team we have played so far.
and Kansas is the only team that we have on the schedule that is not
better than Iowa.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

I agree,
Iowa has been the worst team we have played so far.
and Kansas is the only team that we have on the schedule that is not
better than Iowa.

Interesting.

 

[crash_zone]

Interesting.

I'd put Iowa ahead of UNI too.

 

[Jambalaya]

You guys must really talk to different people than I do. Or is this all from the HN people? Those people over there are jackwagons

Perky, My Johnson county friends and U of Iowa grad friends are very hospitable and cordial about ISU in my presence.

It's the other 90% jackwagons, that know nothing od ISU, and not much about their own 'adopted' team. A bunch of naive, ignorant rubes who are IMPOSSIBLE to reason with.

You can't rationalize...with irrational people

 

[tm3308]

With 4 of the last 5 quarters being against a terrible team... I think it's safe to say that ISU could put up some points also. You beat a really bad team on Saturday. That's what you are supposed to do. It's not a sign of anything. You are just proving the OP's point.

While I agree that ULM is awful, there were a few other signs that make the quality of the opponent irrelevant.

1. Coker came to life on Saturday. Not just in terms of production (I'd be very concerned if THAT hadn't happened), but in the way he ran. He hit the holes hard, he was one cut and go. Which is what he did last year, and that's what had people so excited about him. And that's what he WASN'T doing prior to this week. Some of the YAC can be chalked up to quality of opponent, as well as the holes that were opening up. But he wasn't dancing around, and that's not something that you can directly attribute to playing a bad team.

2. Vandenberg is much more comfortable in the no-huddle offense. While ULM can make most QB's look good, he was just as comfortable against Pitt in the 4th quarter. And it's a very similar set to what he ran in high school, where he became the most prolific high school passer in Iowa high school history (I know that doesn't necessarily say a lot, but he was pretty damn good in high school.). If we had run such an offense at the end of regulation against ISU, perhaps we sneak out a win that we didn't deserve. And if we played a rematch and ISU made those field goals and didn't have those fumbles, maybe we'd have had to make that drive to tie the game rather than win it.

3. Bernstine didn't play against ISU. While that alone wasn't the difference, he brings a certain attitude to the unit that really serves to elevate the play of those around him. He's an awful lot like Bob Sanders, particularly in that regard. He's also been very effective on special teams. He's been our best kickoff returner, made a great block on Hyde's long punt return on Saturday, and he's excellent in punt coverage (we DEFINITELY needed that against ISU. See: Lenz, Josh). He also busts his a** on coverage. He was flying downfield and barely saved a punt from going into the endzone, and it was downed at the 4.


As I said, if they played a home and home, and ISU played perfect games against the Iowa team that we've seen for the past 5 quarters, I think the home team wins both games.

Iowa State has a pretty good team, IMO. Iowa didn't have their best performance against ISU, but it's not like ISU had their A-game that day, either.

 

[Jambalaya]

Bernstein was sick' against ISU, which a couple of my Iowa fan/friends find hard to believe

 

[tm3308]

Bernstein was sick' against ISU, which a couple of my Iowa fan/friends find hard to believe

TavernHoks. Lol.

 

[mikem]

Ugh, here we go with this typical hawk ******** again.

You have to remember how insecure these pieces of **** are. In zabel and poodalack's case you have to remember how black and bloated and diseased and dead their livers are, and understand that it has caused irreperable damage to the rest of them as well.

Look, when you have nothing going for you as a human being (well, not really human, but you know what I mean), and Deliverance could have been filmed in any of their trailer parks, and they answer the riddle of what has an iq of 50 and a full set of teeth with Sunday dinner, and well you can't expect too much from them...

It has absolutely been one of the great fallacies that these inbred mother****ers have created to apparently ease the pain of their existence, and blight on humanity as a whole, that they are our "superbowl."

The simple fact of the matter is, and it is shown almost every year when bowl season watches all of those fox 12 teams get their ***** handed to them, they play an easier conference schedule than Iowa State does most years.

I am by no means saying that Iowa State has a strong football program. And they will always struggle to compete at the level in the big 12 that the u has in the fox 12. But much of that nonsense happens when the u plays indiana while we play Texas. But these jerkoffs have to make the world flat for themselves so they can stand their own existence, so they create a reality that doesn't exist (like iowa is a national program).

But this nonsense that these inbreds propogate amongst themselves, kind of like how they pass the jug, or their sister-aunt-wife-mother's around the bonfire. None of it is based in reality, and most of it is pretty ******* disturbing.

My grandpa died at 92, and was a Hawk fan his whole life. He was embarrassed by the idiot hawk fan. Of course it makes people get such a positive impression of the state when these idiots are marched out as representational...They are right there with bachmann.