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In the thread regarding the upcoming Big 12 Meeting, there seems to be a fair amount of chatter with regards to the long-term future of the Big 12 Conference.

Apparently there is still A&M sentiment towards the Southeastern Conference.

I had also heard rumblings that the teams in the South did not have to sign the so-called 10-year pledge to stay in the conference so I did some checking regarding the issue. I found this from the Moderator of AllBuffs.com, a University of Colorado website, which I found to be very interesting. It corroberates what I have been hearing that not a single school from the South signed any such agreement:

"Earlier this week, Texas president Bill Powers suggested that the continuing loyalty to the Big 12 would be sort of on the honor system, with each school pledging a long-term commitment.

Then Kansas athletic director Lew Perkins suggested a binding 10-year agreement in a story on AOL FanHouse.

OK, here's the explanation. Just got off the phone with Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe for a column that will run Sunday. In the process, I asked him about the apparent discrepancy.

Here's what Beebe said: As part of their plans for continuing the Big 12 with impending defections, Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State and Missouri agreed to 10-year commitments as a sign to other schools that might have considered joining or remaining in the league. The 10-year commitment now only applies to those five and may not be even applicable given the change in circumstances.

That said, Beebe acknowledged that the league might revisit its by-laws to strengthen its membership commitment."

I am not sure who you can believe regading these commitments, but I have been hearing rumblings to this effect for the past week.

I also found a portion of an article on CBS Sports' website (by Dennis Dodd) quite interesting:

"We already see reports of Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma sharing the Colorado and Nebraska buyout money. Why not? That's the price the likes of Missouri pay for being able to play in a BCS league at this point. Don't forget that Missouri's public stance got us to this place. In the end, it had nowhere to go. Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton should be flying to Austin right now to polish the Mercedes of Texas' president Bill Powers.

If true, this is alll very interesting and certainly doesn't bode well with regards to the long-term survival of the Big 12. There seems to be every indication that the four remaining schools in the North are being railroaded by Texas and their willing accomplises in the South. At some point, in spite of the supposed security they received when the Big 12 announced it would remain a player, these schools most likely will say enough is enough.
 
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So what you're saying is even though the big-12-exploding story has died off in the media, we can still count on the ********-rumor-mill to keep running with all of you husker/colorado fans with nothing better to do?
 
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Geesh Nebraska fans are getting insecure. Quite funny actually.
 
I actually think the Big 12 is more stable now without Nebraska voting everything down.
 
Wingback said:
If true, this is alll very interesting and certainly doesn't bode well with regards to the long-term survival of the Big 12.
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Here's something that doesn't "bode well" for NU. The current NU FB roster has 26 TX kids, while in general Big Ten rosters have less than 10. I'd suggest that instead of speculating about Big 12 affairs (of which you have really no insight), you spend your time helping Pellini figure out how he's going to retain/replace those TX players without any regular TX exposure.
 
jbhtexas said:
Here's something that doesn't "bode well" for NU. The current NU FB roster has 26 TX kids, while in general Big Ten rosters have less than 10. I'd suggest that instead of speculating about Big 12 affairs (of which you have really no insight), you spend your time helping Pellini figure out how he's going to retain/replace those TX players without any regular TX exposure.
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This. There are like 13 kids total from Texas in the Big 10. Now Nebraska, has to recruit "Big Ten" country against schools that have been recruiting the same areas for decades, good luck Husker fans. This kills both Iowa and Nebraska, just another team going after the same players.
 
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It's not that we don't care about the future of the Big 12. We're just tired of you trying to dig up dirt on it Wingback.
 
jbhtexas said:
Here's something that doesn't "bode well" for NU. The current NU FB roster has 26 TX kids, while in general Big Ten rosters have less than 10. I'd suggest that instead of speculating about Big 12 affairs (of which you have really no insight), you spend your time helping Pellini figure out how he's going to retain/replace those TX players without any regular TX exposure.
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The two 4* players that have recently committed from Texas don't seem to mind Nebraska going to the Big 10. In fact, there was an article about one of them today in the Journal Star saying he was excited that Nebraska was going to the Big 10.

This "Nebraska won't be able to recruit Texas" idea is being way overblown. They may take a little hit, but there will also be kids that like the idea of playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
 
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Texas does not just go independent and keep their other sports in the Big 12, similar to ND and the Big East. Clearly loyalty is not part of their makeup.

The Big 12 is doomed if a super conference is formed that can increase revenues for the schools. I am not sure that is really a possibility, unless separate conferences are made up for football and other sports.
 
MrReality said:
The two 4* players that have recently committed from Texas don't seem to mind Nebraska going to the Big 10. In fact, there was an article about one of them today in the Journal Star saying he was excited that Nebraska was going to the Big 10.

This "Nebraska won't be able to recruit Texas" idea is being way overblown. They may take a little hit, but there will also be kids that like the idea of playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
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I think they would still rather play Texas, A&M and OU.

Oh well, time will tell. I just look forward to having scoreboard in Lincoln and Ames for awhile.
 
I don't think the Texas recruiting for Nebraska is going to dry up over night. Over the next few years, Nebraska will probably miss on more Texas recruits than they are now, which means that they are going to have to fill those holes in other ways.
 
Nebraska will continue to get players just as they have done in the past. It really doesn't matter in which conference they play. Same thing with Iowa, they will continue to get players. I think Iowa will continue to dominate in state recruiting for the most part. Iowa State seems to be gaining ground in Texas which is a good thing.
 
MrReality said:
The two 4* players that have recently committed from Texas don't seem to mind Nebraska going to the Big 10. In fact, there was an article about one of them today in the Journal Star saying he was excited that Nebraska was going to the Big 10.

This "Nebraska won't be able to recruit Texas" idea is being way overblown. They may take a little hit, but there will also be kids that like the idea of playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
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They will no doubt be able to get recruits out of Texas, but you are underestimating the long term effect on their ability to recruit Texas.

The quantity and quality of recruits from Texas will decline over time.

There are costs to selling out to the highest bidder.
 
DRCHIRO said:
I think they would still rather play Texas, A&M and OU.

Oh well, time will tell. I just look forward to having scoreboard in Lincoln and Ames for awhile.
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You are right, only time will tell. I think what will have more of an impact on Nebraska's Texas recruiting is changes in the coaching staff. They have a few assistant coaches that have really established themselves down there. If those guys ever move on to coordinator jobs it will be interesting to see what Nebraska does to replace them. Hire a guy with ties in Texas or more in the East.

As for scoreboard, it is a cool thing for your fans to say the last time (who knows when they will ever play again) Iowa State played in Lincoln they won. I hope Nebraska can return the favor in 2010. Should be a fun one.
 
MrReality said:
The two 4* players that have recently committed from Texas don't seem to mind Nebraska going to the Big 10. In fact, there was an article about one of them today in the Journal Star saying he was excited that Nebraska was going to the Big 10.

This "Nebraska won't be able to recruit Texas" idea is being way overblown. They may take a little hit, but there will also be kids that like the idea of playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
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Nebraska still plays in the Big 12. They are playing Texas teams and the high school kids now are regularly exposed to Nebraska. In 3 or 4 years Nebraska will be as irrelevant to Texas high school kids as Washington or Purdue. Unless you win national championships.... which I wouldn't count on.
 
MrReality said:
The two 4* players that have recently committed from Texas don't seem to mind Nebraska going to the Big 10. In fact, there was an article about one of them today in the Journal Star saying he was excited that Nebraska was going to the Big 10.
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I wouldn't expect them to say anything different. We'll see how long they stay on the roster.

MrReality said:
This "Nebraska won't be able to recruit Texas" idea is being way overblown. They may take a little hit, but there will also be kids that like the idea of playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.
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Judging by the other Big Ten rosters, there aren't very many of them...
 
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