The ESPY's

zarnold56

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Joel McHale is killing it right now on the opening. NFL getting hammered.
 
ESPN pimping itself out to cash in on the Caitlyn gravy train kind of makes me want to puke. It's not surprising, but vomit inducing all the same.
 
ESPN pimping itself out to cash in on the Caitlyn gravy train kind of makes me want to puke. It's not surprising, but vomit inducing all the same.

The Arthur Ashe recipients list now includes Jim Valvano, Muhammed Ali, Pat Tillman, Nelson Mandela and Bruce ******* Jenner. It's ridiculous.

If Bruce wants to declare himself a woman, that's fine, it's his life, but that does not make him a hero.
 
Still pisses me off they add an award for Lauren Hill instead of giving her the award they are giving to "it"!!
 
The Arthur Ashe recipients list now includes Jim Valvano, Muhammed Ali, Pat Tillman, Nelson Mandela and Bruce ******* Jenner. It's ridiculous.

If Bruce wants to declare himself a woman, that's fine, it's his life, but that does not make him a hero.

Bruce Jenner is rich and set-for-the-rest-of-his-life. He risked exactly nothing by getting a sex change, as he was still going to be rich and set for the rest of his life after the operation. There's absolutely nothing "heroic" about what he did.
 
The Arthur Ashe recipients list now includes Jim Valvano, Muhammed Ali, Pat Tillman, Nelson Mandela and Bruce ******* Jenner. It's ridiculous.

If Bruce wants to declare himself a woman, that's fine, it's his life, but that does not make him a hero.

Especially when they could've gone with six-time Olympic gold medalist swimmer Amy Van Dyken who, 10 months after being paralyzed from the waist down, went to work dedicating her life to raising money to improve the quality of life for millions of people living with paralysis.

But I doubt the Kardashians would've shown up for that.
 
Bruce Jenner is rich and set-for-the-rest-of-his-life. He risked exactly nothing by getting a sex change, as he was still going to be rich and set for the rest of his life after the operation. There's absolutely nothing "heroic" about what he did.

The award is not supposed to be about being a hero. It's called the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. While she may not be the most deserving recipient, I can only imagine how much life must suck if everything you appear to be is not anywhere close to how you feel. Going through all of this being a public figure must only make it more difficult, but it certainly will help others in similar situations feel they can be happy. That sounds courageous to me.

Heck your post shows why what she did is so important. I didn't know you could throw so many "he's" in a few sentences.
 
guys, its gonna be ok.

you are watching and discussing.

thats all that espn cares about.

you will live

Not watching. Zero interest in seeing any of that happen. I've no problem with Jenner's transformation, it did take courage, I just don't need it shoved in my face 24/7. People do it every day, good for them. I believe anyone who doesn't think ESPN is blatantly cashing in on the circus that Caitlyn's journey has become, which is the only reason they gave her this honor, are kidding themselves.

Par for the course for ESPN.
 
Quit watching, terrible program going to get worse. Only thing I saw legit was bball player who lost her arm. Not going to watch Jenner drama, nothing to do with sports.
 
The award is not supposed to be about being a hero. It's called the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. While she may not be the most deserving recipient, I can only imagine how much life must suck if everything you appear to be is not anywhere close to how you feel. Going through all of this being a public figure must only make it more difficult, but it certainly will help others in similar situations feel they can be happy. That sounds courageous to me.

How does it exactly take courage for a rich, has-been celebrity to get a sex change? It doesn't. People have getting sex changes for decades, and the community Jenner lives in would have embraced him fully.

If you'll actually take the time to research sex change operations as a clinical treatment for gender confusion, you'll find that it is no longer receommended by many professionals, since the research shows that it doesn't solve the underlying problems. Jenner is likely doing more harm than good. At least some are now having the courage to take on the LGBT war machine and speak out.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

We at Johns Hopkins University—which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into "sex-reassignment surgery"—launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as "satisfied" by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn't have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a "satisfied" but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.
 
What really bugs me is looking at past deserving recipients (excluding Michael Sam) and then this happening. It's a joke. I'm from the same community as the Ed Thomas family that received the Arthur Ashe Espy a few years ago and it's just disgusting that they are giving the same award to someone not deserving whatsoever. End rant
 
Quit watching, terrible program going to get worse. Only thing I saw legit was bball player who lost her arm. Not going to watch Jenner drama, nothing to do with sports.


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Since when did they move the show to abc? I know it's still the family of espn but they have no problem putting major bowl games on their network.
 
Since when did they move the show to abc? I know it's still the family of espn but they have no problem putting major bowl games on their network.
It took me awhile to find it lol.. I coulda swore it was on tonight and was going through the ESPN channels wondering what the heck was going on
 
How does it exactly take courage for a rich, has-been celebrity to get a sex change? It doesn't. People have getting sex changes for decades, and the community Jenner lives in would have embraced him fully.

If you'll actually take the time to research sex change operations as a clinical treatment for gender confusion, you'll find that it is no longer receommended by many professionals, since the research shows that it doesn't solve the underlying problems. Jenner is likely doing more harm than good. At least some are now having the courage to take on the LGBT war machine and speak out.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

If you really think that going through a sex change regardless of being public or not doesn't take an immense amount of courage just because people have been doing it for decades and you are surrounded by people that like you then I guess there is no point in trying to continue any level of discourse.
 

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